Is Objectivism compatible with religion?

Objectivist Center ^ | 1/5/02 | David Kelley

[RJCogburn]

Can one be a Catholic and not abstain from birth control ? Can one be a Jew and not be Kosher? Can one be a Protestant and not tithe?

I think that for all but the very most orthodox, the answer is yes.

Similarly, can one appreciate objectivist thought and not be an atheist? Again, I would say, except for the most orthodox, the answer is yes.

As before, for those interested in the subject of Objectivism click on the link above.

[Cultural Jihad]

Jim, these daily Objectivist threads are becoming soapboxes for the malicious slamming of Christianity and conservatism, and are of interest to only a tiny fraction of the News forum. Shouldn't these types of threads appear in a philosophy, religion, chat, or RLC forum rather than in the News/Activism?

[gcruse]

A religious Objectivist does some industrial strength compartmentalizing, I would think. If one truly follows where reason leads, I don't see how the destination can be anything but existentialism.

[RJCogburn]

Well, I'd leave it to Jim, of course, but a thread that gathers more than 700 responses and generates some serious discussion by a lot of posters seems appropriate where it is. There is, after all, a 'philosphy' topic for posts in this category.

I don't think these are intended to 'slam' Chistianity but they do generate discussion. As for conservatism, well, there are a lot of principles, productive effort for an easy one, that are quite conservative, whether economic or social conservative.

[onedoug]

One God. One morality for all humanity. Decency toward others. Deed over creed.

[RJCogburn]

Well, one need not be a "religious Objectivist" to be other than an atheist. And, as I said, 'appreciate Objectivist thought' is possible. There are certainly differences even between the most determined Objectivists, as the existence of both the Any Rand Institute and the Objectivist Center demonstrates.

[RJCogburn]

You may find this of interest.

[joesnuffy]

The problem with so called "objectivism" is it is anything but objective that is....
Ignoring the eye wittness testimony of thousands of objective eye witnesses...and millions more whose lives
have been miracuoulsy changed...
Instead this so called objectivism seeks to prove its own already established conclusion
that it wont accept certain "kinds of proof"

[gcruse]

Someone seeing an image of Mary in an oil slick is objective but meaningless.

[Hank Kerchief]

Is Objectivism compatible with religion?

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Hank

[B-Chan]

Objectivism is a system of religious (faith-based) thought centered upon the writings and teachings of novelist Ayn Rand, which teachings are held to be infallible by those who subscribe to the Objectivist creed. As a Christian, I of course disagree with the system of belief established by Miss Rand, and I will continue to eagerly point out the flawed principles upon which it is founded. That being said, I have no problem with Objectivists proselytizing for their faith here on FR, so long as the rest of us are free to engage its missionaries in a mutually respectful debate on the merits of their case.

I do think that a single thread dedicated to the discussion of Objectivism would be preferable to multiple threads covering essentially identical topics.

[Cultural Jihad]

Then I wonder why there are no threads allowed in the news forum for the purpose of proselytizing valid religions?

[HumanaeVitae]

Objectivism is also incompatible with non-arbitrary ethics.

[longshadow]

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[HumanaeVitae]

Whenever an Objectivst thread is posted, please ping me.

I will be more than happy to demolish this idiotic 'philosophy' over and over again.

[RJCogburn]

I think you'd do better to argue the questions rather than just whining to the authorities.

Just my opinion.

[OWK]

I will be more than happy to demolish this idiotic 'philosophy' over and over again.

You'll have to bring something more impressive than that ethical rubber chicken you're waving around.

(and no, the seltzer bottle won't help either)

[OWK]

Then I wonder why there are no threads allowed in the news forum for the purpose of proselytizing valid religions?

Mommy.... Billy's touching me...

[HumanaeVitae]

Actually, I'll just post it. It's the second article from the bottom of the page, by Patrick M. O'Neil. Something like 23 pages in PDF. I would have linked the PDF, but PDF links can be annoying. See for yourself.

Ayn Rand and The Ought-Is Problem

[HumanaeVitae]

Above is your rubber chicken.