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To: MHGinTN
To save you some time -
The vaccines used at the present time for chicken pox,hepatitis-A and rubella are derived from cell lines taken from two (2) aborted fetuses in the 60's and 70's that were already infected with the diseases.

These vaccines are in use mostly today to protect pregnant mothers and their babies from the diseases - without them, many more babes would be born diseased.

Cloning babies would do nothing - these cells were used specifically because they were already infected.

To someone who does not know the details, your post makes it sound as if aborted babies are used to produce these vaccines, and this as you know is untrue.
18 posted on 04/24/2003 8:43:29 PM PDT by RS
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To: RS
I'm sorry if my wording was misleading. And I'm curious: if you knew the answer to the vaccine question, why did you ask it? If you just came across the data, how about sharing the source link with fellow freepers.
19 posted on 04/24/2003 9:02:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: RS
I looked again at what I posted ...Many of the vaccines used today are derived through exploitation of aborted fetuses... and the use of the present tense verb can be misleading, but it was not intentional. The original lines of the virus strains were derived from aborted fetuses.
20 posted on 04/24/2003 9:08:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: RS; MHGinTN
Sorry I'm so late in answering, I've been out of town.

RS, the cell lines weren't chosen because they were infected, they were chosen because the researchers were trying to find cell lines that would grow in a vat, and these lines grew. Now, they're used because they're cheaper.There are two lines used today, and a few other cell lines are being experimented on by Merck and other pharmaceutical companies for the AIDS vaccine and even influenza vaccine.

The cells grow, are capable of being infected and produce the desired antigen (viral part or live virus) for the vaccine. The cells are killed and processed to produce the vaccine. They are cheaper than using live animals or cell lines from animals or recombinant DNA. (bacteria grow the vaccine antigens for Hepatitis B.)


But, human cell lines are not the only option. For instance, there is a vaccine for rubella that is not grown in the human cell line.

http://www.cogforlife.org/fetalvaccines.htm


While the cell lines W-38 and MRC5 have been sustained for years, the researchers do continue to look for new cell lines, to harvest new lines from ongoing abortions. This is proven by the appearance of Per C 6 and 238.

As far as cloned lungs. The child who may be killed for his or her fetal or embryonic lung cells may not be large, but he or she is just as human as you or I. Is she or he *human enough* to be protected from legalized homicide?
94 posted on 04/29/2003 10:14:07 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US.)
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