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To: Archimedes2000
The nazi's were left wing? That's funny. Tell that to the skin heads and the kkk. I'll bet they'll have a hard time getting their tattoos off. lol!
88 posted on 04/30/2003 9:45:35 AM PDT by Laurie S
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To: Laurie S
I don't have to tell anything to the KKK. As Hitler plainly stated in Mein Kampf, The National Socialists were a movement of the extreme Left. Just the facts, Laurie, whether you like them or not.

90 posted on 04/30/2003 10:25:03 AM PDT by Archimedes2000
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To: Laurie S
The KKK was formed to rid the South of Carpet Baggers, REPUBLICANS, and blacks in power. Not a very right wing organization. Pubies didn't carry the south until the mid 80's.
96 posted on 04/30/2003 11:33:11 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Laurie S
Exposing the lie of 'persecution of gays' - from a report by Jewish historian Dr. Howard Hurwitz

Homosexual Holocaust Victims? NO!

In 1996, a 'Living Memorial to the Holocaust', sponsored by the Museum of Jewish Heritage, was under construction in New York City at Battery Park, opposite Ellis Island. Jewish historian Dr. Howard Hurwitrz reports, "The… intention of the sponsors is to include homosexuals along with Jews as 'victims' of Hitler. A precedent for such inclusion is in the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

"Militant homosexuals, abetted by mistaken liberal Jews, have perpetrated this distortion of history, " asserts Dr. Hurwitz.

"The fact is," he writes, "that the Nazi Party was founded by homosexuals. This is documented beyond dispute by historians whose works have been published since the end of WW II, most recently by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams in The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality In The Nazi Party.

"Hitler is listed as a homosexual in Viennese police files, according to the historian Desmond Seward in his Napoleon and Hitler. There is little doubt that he was a sexual pervert.

"Beyond any challenge is the fact that Hitler's closest friend, Ernst Roehm, was a notorious homosexual. Hitler and Roehm were founders of the Nazi Party in the early 1920s.

"The fiction that the Nazis were anti-homosexual stems from the murder of Roehm, on orders from Hitler, on June 30, 1934, the 'Night of the Long Knives'. Roehm, along with thousands of his homosexual followers, was murdered — not because he was a homosexual, but because Hitler had reason to believe that Roehm threatened to seize leadership of the Party.

"Roehm was in position to do so because his brown shirts, some three million, outnumbered the German army. Roehm had been turned down by Hitler when he demanded control of the German Army. For their part, the Army generals demaned of Hitler, who was already the Chancellor, that Roehm be eliminated. Their demand was affirmed by German industrialists who threatened to cut off funding of the Nazi Party.

"Thereupon, Hitler decided to end both his friendship and the life of Roehm.

"In the ensuing years, Hitler sought to strengthen his popular support by proclaiming his opposition to homosexuals. Under German law, homosexuality was a felony. The German people held homosexuals in disdain. Coming out against them was thus made easier for Hitler, who arrested and imprisoned individual homosexuals accused of crimes. Among these homosexuals were those who murdered Nazis and left notes on their corpses that the killing was in revenge for the murder of Roehm and his homosexual followers.

"But at no time were homosexuals rounded up as were Jews and transported to concentration camps for extinction. They were not gassed. Many serviced homosexual guards during their incarceration.

"It is especially significant to note that some prominent homosexuals were retained by Hitler in leadership positions in the Third Reich right up to its final days in 1945.

"Homosexuals seek inclusion in the New York Holocaust Museum because it would go far toward gaining acceptance (not mere toleration) for their sexual behavior.

"Militant homosexuals in their political agenda - set forth in the (so-called) gay, lesbian and bisexual March on Washington, 1993 - demand legalization of same-sex marriage, and the right of 'gay' women and men to teach schoolchildren that homosexuality is normal and an alternative to homosexuality, etc.

"Since some prominent liberals are cosponsors of the New York Holocaust Museum, it will take considerable effort to dissuade trustees of the Museum of Jewish Heritage to deny homosexuals' false claim to be 'victims' of Nazi genocide along with Jews and others.

"To bring this about, the Family Defense Council (along with other interested parties), has formed a Committee for Holocaust Truth."

Fittingly, the campaign to restore truth in the Holocaust Museum began on April 16, Holocaust Day. Dr. Hurwitz is chairman of the International Committee for Holocaust Truth, as well as head of the Family Defense Council, Inc.

111 posted on 05/06/2003 7:45:35 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Laurie S
Do your history homework.

Night of the Long Knives

Excerpt:

By 1934 Adolf Hitler appeared to have complete control over Germany, but like most dictators, he constantly feared that he might be ousted by others who wanted his power. To protect himself from a possible coup, Hitler used the tactic of divide and rule and encouraged other leaders such as Hermann Goering, Joseph Goebbels, Heinrich Himmler and Ernst Roehm to compete with each other for senior positions.

One of the consequences of this policy was that these men developed a dislike for each other. Roehm was particularly hated because as leader of the Sturm Abteilung (SA) he had tremendous power and had the potential to remove any one of his competitors. Goering and Himmler asked Reinhard Heydrich to assemble a dossier on Roehm. Heydrich, who also feared him, manufactured evidence that suggested that Roehm had been paid 12 million marks by the French to overthrow Hitler.

Hitler liked Ernst Roehm and initially refused to believe the dossier provided by Heydrich. Roehm had been one of his first supporters and, without his ability to obtain army funds in the early days of the movement, it is unlikely that the Nazis would have ever become established. The SA under Roehm's leadership had also played a vital role in destroying the opposition during the elections of 1932 and 1933.

However, Adolf Hitler had his own reasons for wanting Roehm removed. Powerful supporters of Hitler had been complaining about Roehm for some time. Generals were afraid that the Sturm Abteilung (SA), a force of over 3 million men, would absorb the much smaller German Army into its ranks and Roehm would become its overall leader.

Industrialists such as Albert Voegler, Gustav Krupp, Alfried Krupp, Fritz Thyssen and Emile Kirdorf, who had provided the funds for the Nazi victory, were unhappy with Roehm's socialistic views on the economy and his claims that the real revolution had still to take place. Many people in the party also disapproved of the fact that Roehm and many other leaders of the SA were homosexuals.

Adolf Hitler was also aware that Roehm and the SA had the power to remove him. Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler played on this fear by constantly feeding him with new information on Roehm's proposed coup. Their masterstroke was to claim that Gregor Strasser, whom Hitler hated, was part of the planned conspiracy against him. With this news Hitler ordered all the SA leaders to attend a meeting in the Hanselbauer Hotel in Wiesse.

Meanwhile Goering and Himmler were drawing up a list of people outside the SA that they wanted killed. The list included Strasser, Kurt von Schleicher, Hitler's predecessor as chancellor, and Gustav von Kahr, who crushed the Beer Hall Putsch in 1923.

On 29th June, 1934. Hitler, accompanied by the Schutzstaffel (SS), arrived at Wiesse, where he personally arrested Ernst Roehm. During the next 24 hours 200 other senior SA officers were arrested on the way to Wiesse. Many were shot as soon as they were captured but Hitler decided to pardon Roehm because of his past services to the movement. However, after much pressure from Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler, Hitler agreed that Roehm should die. At first Hitler insisted that Roehm should be allowed to commit suicide but, when he refused, Roehm was shot by two SS men.

112 posted on 05/06/2003 7:51:53 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Laurie S
The "Homosexual Holocaust" -- Another Gay Militant Myth?

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`Other historians like Shirer (The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich) and Mello (History of the SS, 1923-1945), document the pivotal role Nazi homosexuals played in the rise of Hitler and the defeat of the old conservative, Prussian military. The German army, under the Versailles Treaty, could have no more than 100,000 men. Hitler's "notorious" homosexual comrade Ernst Roehm, however, formed, selected and trained the Storm Troopers (aka "Brown Shirts") a para-military goon force that spawned the SS, and which grew to at least 2.5 to 4.5 million.

`Some historians have noted a disturbing undercurrent in SS special forces "training" -- especially reports that the recruits were required to soap each other's bodies during showers, ostensibly to establish mutual dependency. On this note, Shirer wrote that "[p]imps, murderers, homosexuals... [men of] unnatural sexual inclinations" flocked to Hitler. Homosexuals ran the Infantry School and the Storm Troopers. The latter became such a powerful force in the Nazi movement that Hitler's closest advisors began to argue that Roehm and his homosexual cadre would prove a formidable counterforce.

`Thus, in June of 1934, Hitler reluctantly dispatched a crew to arrest Roehm and his closest conspirators in their lavish quarters -- where they also found a bounty of homosexual paraphernalia and "two naked boys." `Kaximierz Moczarski, a Polish resistance fighter, confirmed that after the purge and Roehm's execution (delayed because of Hitler's affection for him), homosexuals "remained party members... got promotions... were protected by the top [Nazi] brass" and served on the battlefield and in prisons. Evidence exists that some male concentration camp inmates were forced to "entertain their guards with humiliating acts" while survivors like Elie Wiesel testified in Night, "The officer[s] took an interest in... [boys] ten and twelve years old... there was considerable traffic in children among homosexuals here."

`The historical data do not sustain claims of homosexual martyrdom. On the contrary, in June 1935, two years after Hitler's victory, "Unnatural" was purged from the German Criminal Code description of homosexuality. Katz reports that without Himmler's express permission -- even if repeatedly apprehended having sex -- homosexual actors and artists were not to be incarcerated.

113 posted on 05/06/2003 7:59:05 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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