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To: Saundra Duffy
http://www.seattlemag.com/feature3.asp

I would like to dirrect peoples attention to 3 things about the link above:

First check out the art in the home, then check out the home owners (hint, Neal and Bob), then consider the art work of pre-Nazi Germany/Europe ie Dadaism. There HAS to be an underlying psycological cause.

Here's links to some of the art works in the home

Iggi Green-Foelick Gallerys..does doll in Lav
http://www.froelickgallery.com/Artist-Detail.cfm?
ArtistsID=238

Anne Grgich...painting in lav
http://garde-rail.com/artists/artists.html

Terry Turrel- decapitated head in "living" room
http://www.groverthurston.com/html/artists/turrell.html

http://www.groverthurston.com/html/artists/hill.html

Sick, base, evil.
22 posted on 04/24/2003 4:26:10 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
Sadomasochism That sadomasochism and homoeroticism often occur together with Nazism in the Holocaust film is a fact that has long been recognized and is frequently observed. Ilan Avisar, in Screening the Holocaust, traces what he calls the connection of Nazism and "sexual deviance" to Rossellini’s Open City.[1] Gerd Gemünden suggests that in 1942, "the association of male homosexuality with sadism and perversion [as in the effeminate portrayal of Heydrich in Hangmen Also Die] … anticipates postwar films such as The Damned (Visconti 1969) and Night Porter (Cavani 1974)."[2]

[1] Ilan Avisar, Screening the Holocaust: Cinema’s Images of the Unimaginable (Bloomington, IN: Indiana University Press, 1988), pp. 134-48

[2] Gerd Gemünden, "Brecht in Hollywood: Hangmen Also Die and the Anti-Nazi Film," TDR 43 (4) (Winter 1999): 65-7; The earliest book in English to conflate Nazism with sexual perversion was Samuel Igra’s Germany's National Vice (London: Quality Press, Ltd., 1945).

24 posted on 04/24/2003 6:42:41 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Dead Dog

There HAS to be an underlying psycological cause

Conclusion to the Psychological Effects of Combat - Dave Grossman, Author It is often said that "All's fair in love and war," and this expression provides a valuable insight into the human psyche, since these twin, taboo fields of sexuality and aggression represent the two realms in which most individuals will consistently deceive both themselves and others. Our psychological and societal inability to confront the truth about the effects of combat is the foundation for the cultural conspiracy of repression, a deception and denial that has helped to perpetuate and propagate war throughout recorded history.

In the field of developmental psychology, a mature adult is sometimes defined as someone who has attained a degree of insight and self-control in the two areas of sexuality and aggression. This is also a useful definition of maturity in civilizations. Thus, two important and reassuring trends in recent years have been the development of the science of human sexuality, which has been termed "sexology," and a parallel development of the science of human aggression, which D. Grossman has termed "killology." There is a universal consensus that continued research in this previously taboo realm of human aggression is vital to the future development, and perhaps to the very existence, of our civilization.

25 posted on 04/24/2003 6:45:13 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Dead Dog; Admin Moderator
No pix please, those things are too sick.
26 posted on 04/24/2003 11:17:44 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Dead Dog
Sick, base, evil.

I wonder if some of Saddam's goons are gay. Just asking.

29 posted on 04/25/2003 8:23:10 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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