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Imperial America? (slightly old, but still interesting)
The Ornery American (War Watch) ^ | April 14, 2003 | Orson Scott Card

Posted on 04/24/2003 12:01:49 PM PDT by Democratic_Machiavelli

I thought I was in the wrong century when I heard Sean Hannity babbling away on Fox News about who should get the contracts for Iraq's oil. "What happened to the idea that 'to the victor go the spoils'?" he asked. "Maybe if we get twenty years of royalties on Iraq's oil, it'll pay for the intervention that got them their freedom."

Yeah, right. The freedom to have us treat their oil as if it belonged to us.

There are only two ways to look on this vile proposal: Either we are establishing Iraq as a colony of a new imperial America, or we're demanding the oil revenues as reparations.

Either way would convert the cleanest war ever fought into something dirty after all.

"To the victor go the spoils" was a motto for a different kind of war. When it's a war of liberation, there are no spoils.

If this war was about anything, it was to make the Iraqi people the sovereign rulers of their own country. The only restriction we can or should place on their free government, once it's established, is that they can't have weapons of mass destruction or support terrorism.

Didn't we say, over and over, that the oil reserves of Iraq belong to the Iraqi people?

Not to us! Not to American companies!

Let French and German and Russian companies have the oil contracts. Indeed, the interim government should insist on honoring Saddam's contracts, with the stipulation that those contracts will be valid until a new, elected government comes to power. Then let the Iraqis decide whether they like the deals Saddam struck with the French and Germans and Russians.

Just as we should let the new Iraqi government decide whether to honor the debts Saddam ran up with other countries. Let it be the French and Russians and Germans demanding that the new democratic Iraq pony up and pay them Saddam's blood money.

Keep us out of it. All that matters to us is that a credible, legitimate, elected government take over the burden of leading, protecting, and rebuilding the unified nation of Iraq.

What just kills me about these suggestions of grabbing control of Iraq's resources is that they come from conservatives -- from people who claim to believe in the free market.

Well, as Gomer Pyle used to say, Surprise surprise surprise! Scratch some of these free marketeers, and you find the old imperialism just under the surface.

I say, let France and Germany and Russia be the imperialist exploiters -- they want the role so desperately, let them have it and face the consequences.

We did not enter this war for money, and shame on us if we profit from it financially in any way. It would cheapen the memory of those who died on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan -- and in the World Trade Center.

(Excerpt) Read more at ornery.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: colonies; empire; hussein; iraq; iraqifreedom; oil; warofliberation
Towards the end, OSC goes in depth about the difference between immediate reconstruction and long-term reconstruction. I disagree with his comments regarding the success of the UN in humanitarian issues, but it's worth the read overall.
1 posted on 04/24/2003 12:01:49 PM PDT by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
...We did not enter this war for money, and shame on us if we profit from it financially in any way...

We entered the war for our own security, which is a more basic good than money. This doesn't mean that during the inevitable reconstruction we should give the contracts to others. We're not that stupid!

2 posted on 04/24/2003 12:11:15 PM PDT by Mihalis
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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
It's OK for France, Germany and Russia to be imperialist exploiters because "they want the role so desperately?" Desire makes it right? Do you laugh? Cry? Throw your hands up in the air and walk away?
3 posted on 04/24/2003 12:16:17 PM PDT by ricpic
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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
OSC is one of my favorite authors, even though I have only read one of his books that I can recall. I used to read his short stories in OMNI magazine.

He comes across as rather conservative, thats cool :)

4 posted on 04/24/2003 12:16:50 PM PDT by Paradox
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To: Paradox
He's a Democrat (according to OSC himself), but he's extremely supportive of the War on Terror and has a lot of sharp criticism for The Left. He also supports a lot of other conservative values. :) I'm not sure why he's a Democrat.
5 posted on 04/24/2003 12:21:43 PM PDT by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: Mihalis
The contracts he's discussing weren't ours to begin with.
6 posted on 04/24/2003 12:22:29 PM PDT by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
Bookmark Bump
7 posted on 04/24/2003 1:09:51 PM PDT by lepton
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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
Most of the world should be recolonized - for everyone's benefit.
8 posted on 04/24/2003 1:21:13 PM PDT by Humvee
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To: Humvee
bump for later reading
9 posted on 04/24/2003 1:58:37 PM PDT by meema
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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
>When it's a war of liberation, there are no spoils

Foolishly naive sentiment. For expending blood and treasure, the US will not only enjoy the "spoils" of authority in Iraq for a period of time, but it will also ensure that rebuilding contracts do not go to those who stood in the way of removing Saddam. Liberators of a nation define the terms by which the nation transitions to a democracy. To do otherwise, would be to reward cowardice. This is not a situation where we say to France and Germany- we bore the casualties, you get the contracts. His contention that Iraqi civillians should be burdened with Saddam's debts to the Axis of Appeasement for weapons is without merit.
10 posted on 04/24/2003 3:51:39 PM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: jagrmeister; All
I think I need to clarify something.

OSC is not discussing rebuilding contracts in the section I posted. He's talking about contracts Iraq made with Russia, France, etc. before this war started. Later in the article, he recommends that the U.S. give the immediate rebuilding contracts to U.S. firms who have worked with the military. This is best for the Iraqis because it speeds up the rebuilding process.

Click on the link and read the rest of the article to see what I mean.

11 posted on 04/25/2003 8:41:44 AM PDT by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
I Was addressing the contracts Saddam made using the Iraqi people's money with France and Russia. Outstanding payments on such contracts should not now fall to the Iraqi people.
12 posted on 04/25/2003 10:54:16 AM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: jagrmeister
But that's between the Iraqi people and the countries Saddam made those contracts with. We are not conquering the Iraqis, we're liberating them. To assume the contracts he made is to assume leadership of Iraq. If we were now in charge of the Iraqi government, we would have stopped the looters. We're not. Therefore, the contract issue is not our concern.
13 posted on 04/25/2003 11:04:47 AM PDT by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
I think I'll pass on reading any more of Orson Scott Card's work.
14 posted on 04/25/2003 11:05:47 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
"we're liberating them"

Yes, there's nothing that says liberation better than saddling the innocent Iraqi people with Saddam's incurred debts.
15 posted on 04/25/2003 4:19:02 PM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: jagrmeister
We're not "saddling" them with anything. We're staying out of something that didn't concern us then, and doesn't concern us now.

The new Iraqi government can state (as the Americans did after the Revolution) that they will not pay the debt since those contracts were not entered into by a government sanctioned by the Iraqi people. They aren't helpless in this.

16 posted on 04/28/2003 9:50:02 AM PDT by Democratic_Machiavelli
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