MOHAMED ATTA WORKED FOR ELITE U.S.—GERMAN GOVERNMENT EXCHANGE PROGRAM

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Atta group pondered bombing of US consulate in Hamburg: Weekly
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/781769/posts

Mohammed Atta: The Hamburg connection
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/759653/posts

Father insists alleged leader is still alive (Mohammed Atta)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/743252/posts

Terror phone link (Atta phoned Australian contacts)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/725603/posts

Islamic Fundamentalist infiltrated German police (went to the same mosque as Mohammed Atta)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/711788/posts

9-11 MASTERMIND: Investigators identify Atta recruiter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/698649/posts

He also looks a lot like the composite drawings of John Doe #2 of OK city bombing fame.

I know it is wrongheaded to dismiss information out of hand, but in this case, I am certainly inclined to. This writer has a history of tying unconnected balls of sting together and then trying to sell the finished product as one piece of string.

From the link:

>>...A year-long MadCowMorningNews investigation has uncovered evidence that at least seven of Mohamed Atta's closest associates in Florida during the year leading up to the 9/11 attack were not Arab, but German....<<

Don't forget the German connection to the OKC Bombing: Andreas "Andy the German" Strausmeier (sp?).

MadCowMorningNews?

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A subsidiary of the HoofInMouth publishing group.

You "COULD" be right. That's why I posted the additional stories

YUP

OKC Figure Federal Informant?

Why is Morris Dees so determined to absolve Andreas Strassmeir of having had a role in the events surrounding the Oklahoma City bombing?
Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Center—a private group that works closely with the FBI, the BATF, the CIA and other federal agencies—is again working to cover up the role of federal undercover informants in the Oklahoma bombing.

Dees is particularly concerned with brushing away all memory of one individual in particular: Hebrew-speaking German immigrant Andreas Strassmeir—often described as a “neo-Nazi”—whom multiple reliable witnesses placed in the company of confessed bomber Timothy McVeigh prior to the tragedy.

The most recent effort by Dees to cover for Strassmeir came in the Spring 2002 issue of Dees’ Intelligence Report in a review of a new book—In Bad Company, by author Mark Hamm—that describes the role of Strassmeir and others in the bombing.

Actually, Dees’s review never even mentions Strassmeir by name, referring only to “a German” mentioned in Hamm’s book. Dees clearly wants to erase Strassmeir’s name forever.

Dismissing Hamm’s revelations as simply “claims”—Dees disregards all the evidence Hamm and others brought forth regarding Strassmeir.

Despite Dees’s attack on Hamm’s book implicating Strassmeir, Hamm does not suggest Strassmeir was an undercover informant. Instead, Hamm buys the line put out by the federal government and by Dees that Strassmeir was just another “neo-Nazi.”

This is precisely why Dees’ cover-up for Strassmeir is significant: If Strassmeir was a “neo-Nazi” of the type Dees is so fond of pursuing, it is strange Dees gives Strassmeir a free pass.

However, if Strassmeir was a federal informer inside “neo-Nazi” circles, Dees’s defense of Strassmeir makes sense, in light of Dees’s own ties to an array of federal agencies as well as the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B’nai B’rith which works closely with those same agencies.

Dees’s review is also careful not to mention the name of former federal undercover informant Carol Howe, who fingered Strassmeir, or the specifics of her charges. Miss Howe is referred to only (and falsely) as “a mentally unstable former federal informant.”

In fact, Miss Howe’s charges have been fully examined, documented, and confirmed by a wide-ranging series of independent investigators all of whom found Howe credible. They include: Ambrose Evans-Pritchard of The London Telegraph; J. D. Cash, of The Jubilee and The McCurtain Daily Gazette; Former Oklahoma Rep. Charles Key; New American editor William Jasper; Mrs. Kathy Wilburn (who lost two grandchildren in the bombing); and Ex-Marine Colonel Roger Charles (a former ABC producer).

In addition, respected columnists Sam Francis and Robert Novak lent their support to the allegations Strassmeir was an informant.

Dees’s defense of Strassmeir echoes a previous cover-up effort by Dees in the Summer 2001 issue of his Intelligence Report. There, Dees published a malicious at tack on Miss Howe, saying she had spun “a confused story about [her] ex-boyfriend [Dennis] Mahon and other Elohim City denizens’ alleged involvement” in the bombing.” In fact, Howe’s story focused on Strassmeir—whom Dees never mentioned at all. Dees instead shifted attention to Strassmeir’s associate who, by all reports, now also believes Strassmeir was an undercover informant.

Howe’s story was never “confused” and not something she dreamed up after the bombing as Dees implied. Howe told her BATF handlers about Strassmeir prior to the bombing—as even her BATF handler later admitted in court.

STRASSMEIR WAS KEY PLAYER

McVeigh’s first attorney, Stephen Jones, and his more recent attorneys, Rob Nigh, Richard Burr, Nathan Chambers and Christopher Tritico, have all charged Strassmeir was a key player in the scenario.

When McVeigh’s attorneys appealed to block Mc Veigh’s execution, they cited newly-released FBI documents which suggested that “there was . . . evidence, withheld by the government, that another person could well have been the mastermind behind the bombing.”

The attorneys named Strassmeir and his friend, Dennis Mahon, as possible co-conspirators, charging the FBI engaged in a “scheme to suppress evidence” of their roles, alleging that information in the FBI documents “suggested that one of the other participants in the bombing was an informant for federal law enforcement officers.”

Not only do most investigators seem to have concluded Strassmeir, more so than Mahon, was the likely candidate but, as noted, Mahon apparently now believes Strassmeir was a government man all along.

While the names of Strassmeir and Mahon were revealed by the European-based Reuters News Agency on June 7, 2001, their names were suppressed by U.S. news sources despite a media frenzy over the effort to block McVeigh’s execution.

Dees’s attacks on Miss Howe echo the same language used by Strassmeir’s chief defender, his close friend and attorney, Kirk Lyons.

This is no surprise. From the beginning, Lyons joined Dees and the ADL, along with The New York Times, Newsweek, The Washington Post and the rest of the elite media in trying to suppress the Strassmeir connection.

The ADL had early, inside knowledge of McVeigh’s activities, either provided to the ADL by a federal source—based on data provided by Strassmeir and his associates—or by Strassmeir himself.

The likelihood Strassmeir was an informant also suggests his attorney, Lyons, was aware of Strassmeir’s status and may have been his “handler.”

The June 8, 2001 issue of the Times of London featured a revealing story about Strassmeir, in which the authors concluded that Strassmeir probably was an undercover operative. The Times reported: “The syringe that executes McVeigh will also drain Strassmeir of significance; giving him the status of a footnote.” In other words, it would eliminate the one person who could finger Strassmeir.

The newspaper noted Strassmeir can read Hebrew—Israel’s state language—as a consequence, it is said, of having had a girlfriend who served in the Israeli Army, “not exactly the typical choice of a neo-Nazi,” the Times added. In addition, the Times pointed out that when Strassmeir first arrived in the United States, he “found friends easily—retired Army officers, CIA veterans, history buffs—and became part of a network” which the Times said “is powerful in the U.S., a web of influence that stretches into the Pentagon and the federal agencies, in churches and boardrooms, on the oil rigs and building sites.” This is hardly the profile of your average “neo-Nazi extremist” but certainly that of an intelligence operative.

That the ADL and Morris Dees are adamant in discounting the involvement of a purported “neo-Nazi” in the Oklahoma City scenario raises the question: “Why?”

The only logical explanation is that Strassmeir was a “snitch” reporting back to federal intelligence agencies allied with the ADL—or that he was simply an ADL asset all along.

MadCowMorningNews...............Now THERES a name that will instill a sense of trust for the article and its statements.

Who looks like John Doe #2 of OKC? Atta????

Good article. Where's it from?

Who is the author of this piece? Either you did it, which would be some feat in such a short time, or you forgot to credit the author and the source of publication. Morris Dees is well known as a left wing civil rights lawyer, but as a government partner? This sounds like more of Daniel Hopsicker.

Don't get me wrong. A lot of this information has been published before, and by some respected journalists, but the Morris Dees angle fails to pass my smell detector. The same goes for Hopsicker.

Does this involve the build-a-burgers as well?

Re: "Now THERES a name that will instill a sense of trust"

Kinda like trusting Doctors ?

TOO MANY DEATHS AND INJURIES FROM MEDICAL MALPRACTICE

http://www.jacksonwilson.com/pages/medmal-toomanydeaths.htm

Re: "Does this involve the build-a-burgers as well?"

NO ... Just the Neos

Remember this? What is it with $10K, everyone running from the law carries $10K....

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/10/terror-arrest.htm

06/11/2002 - Updated 11:28 AM ET

OKC John Doe #2 Jose Padilla aka Al Muhajir

U.S. citizen arrested in 'dirty bomb' plot

By Donna Leinwand and Jack Kelley, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — With the arrest of a former Chicago street gang member in a suspected al-Qaeda plot to explode a radioactive "dirty bomb" in the United States, authorities are seeking others who might have been involved, U.S. law enforcement officials said Monday. Abdullah Al Muhajir, 31, who officials say changed his name from Jose Padilla after adopting a radical brand of Islam while jailed in Florida, was believed to have been on a scouting mission for possible targets when he was arrested last month in Chicago, where he grew up. Al Muhajir was stopped as he tried to re-enter the USA at O'Hare International Airport after flying there from Zurich. He had been in Pakistan, where authorities working the case have arrested two unidentified Pakistanis.

Authorities said that for much of the past month Al Muhajir, like several other detainees in terrorism probes, had been held in the New York area while officials investigated them. Sunday, he was moved to the U.S. Navy jail in Charleston, S.C., authorities said.

U.S. officials provided few details on Al Muhajir's alleged path from Chicago's gang culture to al-Qaeda, but their sketchy portrayal of him reflects the increasing threat they say is posed by the terror network's efforts to recruit Westerners. Officials said that after Al Muhajir's release in 1992 from a jail in Broward County, Fla., where he served 10 months for aggravated assault and weapons violations, he continued to live in South Florida, where his mother had moved from Chicago. A U.S. law enforcement official said Al Muhajir went to the Middle East in 1998, then lived in Egypt but traveled frequently to Pakistan and Afghanistan. Before his arrest, the official said, Al Muhajir had returned to the USA once or twice.

A Defense Department official said Abu Zubaydah, a top al-Qaeda official in U.S. custody, led U.S. authorities to Al Muhajir — possibly to try to sow fear in the USA by showing that al-Qaeda had recruited an American. Al Muhajir met Zubaydah in Afghanistan last year and then traveled to Pakistan, where he studied how to assemble a radioactive bomb at an al-Qaeda safe house in Lahore, a senior U.S. law enforcement official said. Weeks later, Al Muhajir met with senior al-Qaeda leaders in Karachi.

The dirty bomb plot was in its initial stages and did not have a target, although Al Muhajir has "indicated some knowledge of the Washington, D.C., area," Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said Monday. Intelligence sources said Chicago also might have been a potential target. A senior U.S. law enforcement official said part of the plot involved attacking hotels and gas stations with conventional explosives.

U.S. officials wouldn't comment on any alleged co-conspirators. A senior Pakistani intelligence official said security agents there detained Al Muhajir and two Pakistanis for a few days in April for passport irregularities. Pakistani authorities told FBI agents, who asked them to re-arrest the three. The Pakistanis were arrested quickly; the FBI and CIA tracked Al Muhajir to Switzerland, where agents believe he picked up money for his trip to Chicago.

A dirty bomb uses a conventional explosive such as dynamite to spread radioactive material. Al-Qaeda has been trying to acquire such material, and in 2000 authorities learned that the network wanted to detonate a dirty bomb in the U.S. Capitol. Officials said Al Muhajir had not obtained any radioactive material.

No charges have been filed. Al Muhajir's transfer to Defense Department custody as an "enemy combatant" does not necessarily mean that officials plan to reverse plans not to try U.S. citizens in military tribunals, officials said. Authorities suggested the transfer was aimed at giving them a way to hold Al Muhajir indefinitely while they try to unravel the plot.

Leinwand reported from Washington, Kelley from Islamabad, Pakistan.

Contributing: Jonathan Weisman in Washington

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The original source I do not have. I received it on an email forum called "colin/flecher alerts"

It's not so much about Dees, although he deserves investigation, but about the "German"

I looked at this guy "The German" as a possible agent after he was arrested in Texas, I believe, with Top Secret documents in a brief case. Some big shots in our Gov. ordered his released, his car returned and the brief case returned, documents and all. That never happens unless your connected.

Note: The German Andeas Strassmeir was operating as the head of security for Elohim City.

McCurtain Daily Gazette (Idabel, Oklahoma)

1 July 1997

THE REV. ROBERT MILLAR IDENTIFIED AS FBI INFORMANT

By J.D. Cash

Tulsa-- Near pandemonium broke out in a federal courtroom here Monday when a senior agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shocked observers by telling the court that the spiritual leader of Elohim City, the Rev. Robert Millar, was a confidential informant for the FBI.

The McCurtain Daily Gazette has long been reporting that Elohim City is a religious and paramilitary compound in east-central Oklahoma that is frequented by some of the most dangerous members of the neo-Nazi iunderground in the United States and Canada.

Although residents of the cult have continued to deny it publicly, the Gazette has reported that its sources believe one of those shadowy figures was Timothy McVeigh.

Stories published in this newspaper have also exposed Elohim City as the center of a wide-ranging conspiracy to overthrow the federal government by members of a group called the Aryan Republican Army.

Several of those members have since been arrested on charges related to a string of bank robberies across the midwestern United States.

The incredible revelation that the leader of Elohim City himself was part of a government intelligence operation came during a pre-trial hearing associated with the upcoming trial of another confidential informant and frequenter of the compound, Carol E. Howe.

Howe, a former Tulsa beauty queen, debutante and one-time paid undercover informant for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, is scheduled to stand trial later this month for conspiracy charges associated with making bomb threats and possession of bomb-making components.

Howe was indicted shortly after the Gazette reported that she intended to be a key witness in the trial of Timothy McVeigh.

U.S. District Judge Richard Matsch, who presided over the McVeigh trial, refused to let Howe testify in Denver-- ruling that her information that Elohim City was the center of the bombing conspiracy "might confuse the jury."

Under questioning Monday by Howe attorney Clark Brewster of Tulsa, Special Agent Peter Rickel stunned everyone when he reluctantly admitted that the man Elohim City cult members call "Grandpa" is really a cooperating source for the FBI.

Millar's status as a confidential informant began in the fall of 1994. The FBI admitted in court that Millar was a paid confidential informant, although the amount of his paycheck was not revealed.

When Rickel disclosed this startling information, a senior FBI agent and several U.S. attorneys bolted from the courtroom in an agitated state.

Millar's encampment was heretofore considered by experts in domestic terrorism to be the "Switzerland" of the neo-Nazi movement in the United States.

Elohim City, a 1,000-acre area of rolling timberland, is the residence of some 80 followers. But more importantly, it has played host to some of this nation's most notable subversives.

Thus Millar's position as a mole for the FBI could explain why the compound has never been raided.

Despite its use as a hideout for gunrunners, drug dealers, bank robbers and suspected members of the conspiracy that bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Elohim City has enjoyed a reputation as a place fugitives can live without fear of arrest.

In the weeks before the Oklahoma City bombing, BATF agent Angela Findley had planned to raid the compound and arrest its security advisor, Andreas carl Strassmeir.

Strassmeir, an illegal alien who migrated to Elohim City from Germany, was supected by Findley of converting semi-automatic weapons to machine guns as well as plotting with other Elohim City residents and visitors to bomb federal installations.

Carol Howe reported to Findley during the time she worked for the BATF.

Howe told Findley that Strassmeir was the ringleader in the plot to bomb the Oklahoma City federal building and that Millar was preaching twice a day to his flock that the group had to act by April 19, 1995, or they would end up like the Branch Davidians in Waco.

The arrest of Strassmeir was scrubbed after senior members of the BATF, the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's office met in February, 1995 and discussed Findley's plan.

Sources have told the Gazette that Strassmeir was also an important source of intelligence for the U.S. government.

In January, 1996, shortly after it was discovered that it was Strassmeir that Timothy McVeigh had called for in the days before the bombing, the German national fled to his native Berlin with the aid of German intelligence officers.

With Millar now exposed, the loss of Elohim City as a virtual nest of spies for the U.S. intelligence community is almost assured.

But such a loss could have consequences far beyond the obvious.

If Millar was reporting a wider conspiracy to bomb the Oklahoma City federal building, and those reports were not subsequently turned over to Timothy McVeigh's defense team, then the withholding of such critical information by the FBI could get McVeigh a new trial.

Those reports, as well as Howe's, will likely be sought by the defense teams for both McVeigh and Terry Nichols and may also be subpoenaed by the grand jury convened in Oklahoma City to investigate the bombing.

Also those reports could prove important in several civil suits that are pending against the government for its alleged failure to notify the occupants of the Murrah building that there was a heightened risk of danger on April 19, 1995. And Congress is also looking into the government's intelligence role in the bombing.

Calls to the compound to get Millar's comments about the situation were not returned.

END OF STORY

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