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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
I think in relation to the Federal Government, States do indeed have rights. If we were talking about a Government and it's relation to it's constituency, I would be much more agreeable to your position, but in terms of our Federal form of Government, States do indeed have rights ceded to it by the Constitution to make laws governing the people in their States without interference from the Federal Government except in the cases of enumerated rights in the Constitution and those areas of governance that the 14th amendment clearly refers to.

Again, governments have no rights, they have powers. The Constitution allows the States powers not reserved to the Federal government, e.g., the power to coin money.

This idea that a law must be coupled with a right of individuals that it is defending has intrigued me. Whose idea was this originally? Paine? Jefferson? Locke? This surely doesn't seem like any of their writings. This sounds more like a populace philosophy, like something Bryan would espouse.

I refer to the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson wrote that individuals have rights and governments are created to secure those rights. No other purpose for government -- secure individual rights, that's all. Jefferson, at the time, obviously wasn't making any distinction between some yet to be invented Federal/State relationship, therefore it applies to both.

Since the Declaration was our stated argument for breaking from England and forming our own country, abandoning the notion of government using power to secure rights would delegitimize the Constitution.

162 posted on 04/24/2003 2:20:28 PM PDT by laredo44
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To: laredo44
What right does the establishment of Memorial Day protect? What right does the establishment of a Postal System protect? What right does the granting of money for scientific research protect? What right does the funding of the Interstate Highway System protect? What right does sedition laws protect?

There are many functions of government that have to do with things other than the protection of individual rights. I would like more information on where this concept comes from. One sentence, out of context, from the Declaration of Independance does not cut it.

163 posted on 04/24/2003 2:31:11 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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