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Fresh doubt cast on Sars cause
BBC ^ | April 23, 2003

Posted on 04/23/2003 10:15:42 AM PDT by Dog Gone

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To: riri
Mark Steyn: The system infected us.
61 posted on 04/25/2003 9:43:53 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: ido_now
Doubt? How can there be any doubt?

ido_now: At last the voice of reason rises at Free Republic.

This SARS thing looks a lot more like a PR stunt than an epidemic or pandemic. You are right on about the large number of people who die annually from pneumonia. This looks and smells like the AIDS community looking for employment and funding.

Just a reminder for those who are looking for the science (and not the junk science) behind all of the SARS claims. Robert Koch, established an experimental procedure in 1876 to prove the germ theory of disease. This scientific procedure is known as Koch's postulates and is the accepted standard for defining a communicable disease.

• the causative agent must be present in every case of the disease and must not be present in healthy animals.

• the pathogen must be isolated from the diseased host animal and must be grown in pure culture.

• the same disease must be produced when microbes from the pure culture are inoculated into healthy susceptible animals.

• the same pathogen must be recoverable once again from this artificially infected animal and it must be able to be grown in pure culture.

So when you read that the virus has been isolated and is "for sure" the coronavirus ask yourself if Koch's postulates have been satisfied. If they haven't I for one would question the validity of the claim. If they have, I will stop my bellyaching.

62 posted on 04/25/2003 10:42:23 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint
ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE ......

LONDON (Reuters Health) - A leading British virologist offered reassurance on Friday that the SARS was not infectious enough to cause a world pandemic.

This virus is not highly infectious. It is a plodder like mumps, not a greyhound like measles," said John Oxford, professor of virology at Queen Mary School of Medicine in London.

With a "greyhound" virus, escaping infection is very difficult. But with plodder viruses, someone could walk 100 times into the same room as an infected person and still not be infected, he added in an interview.

If the SARS virus was highly infectious, there would have been many more cases than the few thousand so far reported in China. "I don't think there is any evidence of mutation," he said.

Oxford, an expert on the influenza virus, said SARS should certainly not be compared with the Spanish influenza pandemic that killed millions after the end of the first world war in 1918.

He said Chinese government measures, such as closing schools, to stop the virus spreading were "very positive" but the situation outside South East Asia was different and did not require special containment measures.





63 posted on 04/25/2003 2:36:35 PM PDT by ido_now
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To: Lucas1
     If it actually does "get out" in full force.

Referencing stage number 3 as contained here:

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/898791/posts?page=9#9

it's *doubtful* that would occur now ...

64 posted on 04/25/2003 2:45:43 PM PDT by _Jim (Guangdong doctor linked to SARS: http://www.biomedcentral.com/news/20030320/09/)
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To: keri; Mitchell; riri
...transporting infected patients distances as great as 30 miles.

What was the rationale for this and who made this decision?
Health management bureaucrats, maybe?

I don't know and likely we shall never know.
Everyone in Canada
(media included)
continues to tell us
what a wonderful job the authorities have done.

The fact that infected patients were transported to many different hospitals
(including one near where I live and where my son was born)
has not been reported on the CBC
(as if one would expect that)
nor on the local TV stations
nor, to my knowledge, in any newspaper
except the National Post
and even there
it only is mentioned in the fine print
on the back pages
of a long article.

Please read the Steyn article to which I pinged you
for further 'amusing' details.

65 posted on 04/25/2003 4:11:35 PM PDT by Allan
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