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I will try to be civil in my reply .......although it is especially difficult in light of the fact that I am sure that even if I use a "civil argument" the chance that it will be recieved with any modicum of reality is slim to none.

I take from your last remarks that a mere thought is pardonable, even though it may be a thought that a certain thing will happen and the thinker of that thought wishes for that thing to take place. After that thought which is some way not acted upon the one who thinks that way is pardonable because it was only a passing thought and therefore can be excused. He did after all say he thinks Saddam is bad (which all of the anti-war....anti-Americans say) but he wishes the American troops could have a harder time winning the war.

The most glarinfg difference in what you think and what I think is that I hold that person responsible for the blatant anti-American feelings he had just for the purpose to make G.W. Bush look bad.

I'm not sure why you'd have a hard time being civil to someone who did not stoop to ranting, raving or flaming.

As for your remark, actually I DO hold people accountable for their thoughts, but only to the extent warranted.

For instance, I have had some really terrible thoughts about some of the most venomous anti-Americans. However, I know that when confronted with the reality of the person's humanity(what remains of it) I would not take their life.

In fact, all humans, at least those capable of imagination and confronting their darker sides, have probably had to work out a passing impulse or thought in their head because they REALIZE the thought is wrong or ill-conceived.

Should we judge adulterers and people who gave a half-second thought to adultery equally reprehensible?

All that said, I believe MOST of the ones who wished for a hard time in Iraq have NOT changed, and they are the evil ones. The people who had to be confronted with reality to show them the evil nature of their thoughts are not AS reprehensible.

After all, David Horowitz needed a lot to turn from Leftism, so did Sowell. Should we forever condemn these men for having the wrong thoughts in their head?