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Crown Jewel of American Empire
World Net Daily ^ | April 23, 2003 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 04/23/2003 3:55:20 AM PDT by Seti 1

Crown jewel of American empire

Posted: April 23, 2003

By Patrick J. Buchanan

"Take Up the White Man's burden," Britain's poet of empire, Rudyard Kipling, admonished Teddy Roosevelt's America in 1899. The United States had just triumphed in the Spanish-American War to liberate Cuba and, as war booty, had annexed the Philippine Islands.

We must "Christianize" them, President McKinley explained.

Defeating Spain had been as easy as crushing Iraq. But holding the Philippines would require three years of Vietnam-style fighting against the guerrillas of Aquinaldo, which cost tens of thousands of Filipino lives. And many more Americans died fighting the Filipinos to keep the islands than had died fighting Spain to take them.

Soon after we began that first American imperial war, the American press had a change of heart. Wrote the New York World:

We've taken up the white man's burden
Of ebony and brown;
Now will you kindly tell us, Rudyard,
How we may put it down?

But in 1903, Aquinaldo surrendered, the insurrection ended and the United States converted the islands into what we thought was a Pacific fortress. Yet, as TR had ruefully come to admit, the islands were actually our "Achilles heel." They were lost to Japan in the first six months of World War II and only retaken – to be set free in 1946 – at an immense cost in blood and treasure.

Our new imperialists view Iraq much as McKinley's generation of imperialists saw the Philippines, as an outpost of empire and a strategic base-camp for the projection of American power.

Sen. Richard Lugar, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, says "we ought to be thinking of a period of five years," at least, before an Iraqi government takes control in Baghdad. The New York Times reports that the Pentagon has already selected four sites as permanent U.S. airbases – inside Iraq.

But has anyone consulted the Iraqis on whether they wish to play their assigned role in the Pentagon's script? Or will we have to first put down Iraqi resistance, as we did Filipino resistance, to pacify the country and convert it into a U.S. Middle Eastern bastion? For the vision of the neoconservatives – that Iraqis would embrace Americans as liberators and democracy would spread like brushfire across the Arab world – has yet to be realized. Consider:

Last Friday, after prayers, 50,000 Shias and Sunnis took to the streets of Baghdad chanting, "No to Bush, no to Saddam, yes to Islam," and, "Leave Our Country, we want peace."

In Kut, militant Shia cleric Syed Abbas walked into the town hall and took it over, accompanied by hundreds of Islamic backers who had crossed from Iran. Thousands attend his meetings, which feature calls for an Islamic republic and an end to U.S. occupation.

In Najaz, a religious moderate was knifed to death in that holy city's ancient mosque. Grand Ayatollah Sayyed Alo al-Sistani refuses to leave home – some say, for fear of his life.

Up to 2 million Shi'ites are expected to converge Thursday on Karbala. While the mass pilgrimage to the site of the martyrdom of Imam Ali Hussein, a grandson of the Prophet, has been peaceful, there have been signs also of deep hostility to the U.S. presence.

On Friday, a London Observer reporter ventured into Saddam City, a poor Shia area of Baghdad where U.S. troops do not patrol. There, he found the armed militia of the Sadr Movement, named for a Shia cleric martyred with his sons by Saddam Hussein. Goal of the Sadr Movement: an Islamic state under sharia law.

The Pentagon has bet America's chips on Ahmed Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress to lead Iraq. But before last week, Chalabi was last seen in Baghdad when John Foster Dulles was secretary of state. And reaction to Chalabi appears to range from indifference to violent hatred. Many Iraqis see him as a Pentagon puppet.

Writes the London Telegraph: "On Friday ... a car carrying the flag of the Iraqi National Congress and a large photograph of Mr. Chalabi was sprayed with automatic gunfire. After Friday prayers at the Salati Jimad mosque, when thousands of militant supporters of the late Ayatollah Mohammed al Sadr spilled into the streets, Mr. Chalabi's name was openly derided."

Bush's dilemma? If America is to make good on his promise to build a free, stable, democratic Iraq, it simply cannot be done in months. It will require years. But with many Iraqi Shias already looking on us as imperial and infidel occupiers, we may not have that much time.

Having crushed Saddam's Republican Guard, are we willing to crush an Iraqi intifada to hold onto the country. It may come down to that.

Meanwhile, how do you like the empire?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: imperialism; iraq; iraqifreedom; neoconservative; patrickjbuchanan; postwariraq; rudyardkipling
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1 posted on 04/23/2003 3:55:20 AM PDT by Seti 1
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To: Seti 1
Ah, another pearl from the Hiddenberg of American politics; a bloated gas bag of a relic from a previous era.
2 posted on 04/23/2003 4:01:23 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Seti 1
Poor old Pat, still carrying that pitchfork.

No words of wisdom here more fear mongering, and thumbsucking.

This guy reached his Waterloo long ago and the best he can do is sit on the side lines and quote the NY Times.

Our POW's held captive only two weeks and are still under physician care, here is a country held captive for decades and all old Pat sees is an Iraqi intifida, and use Old Europe words like "American empire".
3 posted on 04/23/2003 4:43:42 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: CWOJackson
Another comment that does nothing but call people names ( I thought only liberals used that tactic )

The end result of Iraq situation is FAR from being decided
I may not agree with this editorial but it raises a lot of real concerns
Instead of calling names attack the premises and refute them
4 posted on 04/23/2003 4:47:40 AM PDT by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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To: uncbob
"...I thought only liberals used that tactic..."

Welcome newbe. Once you've been here a while you'll find that very few threads exists where people aren't called names. Heck, even the old gas bag who wrote this essay calls folks he disagrees with all kinds of paleo/neo names. Stick around and it won't shock you.

5 posted on 04/23/2003 4:54:03 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Seti 1
A horrible analogy by pitchfork pat.

I don't recall the Phillipines supporting international terrorism in 1898.

There is no desire to make Iraq part of any "Empire". Where does he get that idea? A quote from the NY Times that Rummy already denounced?

When pp quotes the NY Times, you KNOW he's out of gas!
6 posted on 04/23/2003 5:00:46 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: You Dirty Rats
Well, in all fairness, Pat was right on the money about Desert Storm...oh, wait a second. No, that's right, he warned us that it would be another Vietnam and thousands of troops would come home in body bags.

But he was right in his predictions about Afganistan, that we would...oops, I guess he was wrong that time but...

There were his predictions about going into Irag...oh...

Well, there was that time when he was in the Nixon White House...

7 posted on 04/23/2003 5:08:00 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Seti 1
Pat, we hardly knew ye ...

and what we did know, always made us giggle

8 posted on 04/23/2003 5:15:42 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Seti 1
"We must "Christianize" them, President McKinley explained."

After we have Christianized the Muslim world, the really difficult task will begin: the Christianizing of Europe.

9 posted on 04/23/2003 5:18:12 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Peace is the prerogative of the powerful--not the weak.)
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To: CWOJackson
That's it. Bury your head in the hole in your sandpile. Did you actually read this? Buchanan is describing the quagmire that could actually happen. This is based on several historical precedents, Buchanan using the Phillipines as prime example.

Question: Do the current leaders, like the Clintons before them (and like many, apparently, that would be considered neo-Conservative), think they are too smart, too civilized, too advanced, to educated to learn from the lessons of history?

10 posted on 04/23/2003 5:19:33 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: CWOJackson
Welcome newbe

Been here longer then you
11 posted on 04/23/2003 5:22:42 AM PDT by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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To: CWOJackson
He's quoting the New York Times...

Two possible explanations:

1. He's trying to build a new base for his Green Party campaign in 2004.

2. Senile dementia.
12 posted on 04/23/2003 5:25:39 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Cacophonous
"Buchanan is describing the quagmire that could actually happen."

Yes, he described a similar quagmire for Desert Storm and Afganistan. Pat is very good at describing quagmires that could actually happen.

I am reading this essay and judging it on "historical precendents", the historical record of Pat's predictions.

13 posted on 04/23/2003 5:25:49 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: You Dirty Rats
I don't recall the Phillipines supporting international terrorism in 1898.

So...if I correctly follow your logic...you are saying that Iraq will be easier than the Phillipines because the latter did not export terrorism but did conduct a bloody three year guerilla campaign against the American occupiers.

Whereas the Iraqis, already exporters of terror, and in a region particularly prone to that pasttime (terror exportation) will be easier, precisely because they are already pre-disposed to fighting guerilla wars?

Huh?

14 posted on 04/23/2003 5:27:37 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Poohbah
Perhaps he could convince Hackworth to be his running mate for the Doom and Gloom party. They share a similar track record on their predictions.
15 posted on 04/23/2003 5:28:31 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: tomkat
It's easy to marginalize any man as outspoken as Pat Buchanan is. But overall Mr. Buchanan has been right on the money. He wanted to stop the insane influx of immigrants years ago, he wanted build a fence on the Mexican border and guard it with military. He warned that international trade through NAFTA and GATT would end up hurting America, and on and on. Pat may be off a little bit in this particular article, but he knows Islam very well. He knows they will never allow us to stay on thier soil..... and he is right. I say find all the chemicals, weapons, cash and other evidence there may be to justify our invasion of Iraq, and then get the hell out of that hole. Let the U.N. come and watch them get torn to pieces by the "grateful" Iraqis. As for Syria, Iran and Jordan? I think we have sufficiently displayed our ability to take them apart in three weeks with just our air power alone. If the time comes to deal with them, then go for it. But for now, get all the evidence from Iraq and get out.

16 posted on 04/23/2003 5:29:02 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: CWOJackson
I want him to run...as a Democrat. Let him do for that august body what he did to the Reform Party.
17 posted on 04/23/2003 5:31:35 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: CWOJackson
I think if you define a quagmire as the long-term involvement (and potential loss of life) of the US, without a cohesive end in sight, than Iraq and Afghanistan both qualify.

If you have a definition you prefer, I'd like to hear it.

It seems to me that Desert Storm I is precisely that; we are seeing the extension (or perhaps, hopefully, the end) of that quagmire now. If Bush 41 had succeeded, it could be argued, 11 September might never have happened, and we wouldn't be there.

And American troops are still in Afghanistan...any idea when they will be finished?

18 posted on 04/23/2003 5:32:46 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: TheCrusader
Nicely said.
19 posted on 04/23/2003 5:33:32 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Cacophonous
How long will our folks be in Afganistan?

A lot longer then Pat's new magazine will be around but that is probably only a matter of months now. Oh I see, so you are saying that perhaps one day, if we remain there long enough, Pat's predictions might come true?

Sure, and one day Pat will tell us why we should all buy American while he's driving a Mercedes. Oh, forgot...we've been there before also.

20 posted on 04/23/2003 5:36:00 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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