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Gun-rights group runs out of ammo
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, April 23, 2003 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 04/23/2003 12:37:48 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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Wednesday, April 23, 2003

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1 posted on 04/23/2003 12:37:48 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
So what did these guys do that NRA's legislative lobbying and political education arm doesn't?
2 posted on 04/23/2003 12:52:43 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: JohnHuang2
Gun control groups can't survive without government funding.
3 posted on 04/23/2003 4:47:05 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Maelstrom
I think you should read it again.
4 posted on 04/23/2003 6:01:25 AM PDT by m1911
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To: patriciaruth
So what did these guys do that NRA's legislative lobbying and political education arm doesn't?

Actually work against gun control rather than compromise with it.

5 posted on 04/23/2003 6:04:23 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: dd5339
ping
6 posted on 04/23/2003 6:21:04 AM PDT by Vic3O3 (Jeremiah 31:16-17 (KJV))
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To: m1911
Thank You.

I erred.

Gun control organizations survive due to government funding through 3rd party providers from the federal government.

This organization is trying to compete with the NRA and the GOA, they should instead try to complement one or the other. This is a shame.
7 posted on 04/23/2003 7:02:52 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: from occupied ga
Name one group that does it better than the NRA.

If you don't know how to work together, your group will join this group into oblivion.
8 posted on 04/23/2003 7:14:18 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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Name one group that does it better than the NRA.

Ya got me. There isn't any nominally pro-gun group that compromises with the anti-gunners better than the NRA. (Project exile, instant background check, etc.)

9 posted on 04/23/2003 7:22:47 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Shooter 2.5
If you don't know how to work together, your group will join this group into oblivion

Sorry - hit the post too soon.

You can only work with someone if you have the same goals, and to be honest the goals of many gun owners are to protect their rights and even recover some of the lost ones, not to compromise them away further which is the NRA's forte. So you can't work with someone if what they're working for isn't what you want.

I could work with Sara Brady too if I wanted a country where only the police and military were armed. I don't. I'll work with the NRA when they stop their policy of preemptive surrender and stop their policy of opposition to pro gun laws like the Bobby Franklin Amendment to the current stealth trigger lock bill in the GA gnl assy, SB1

10 posted on 04/23/2003 7:30:55 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: from occupied ga
You seem to have this obsessive preoccupation with the NRA. If you have a better gun group that does it better than the NRA, I'm sure we would all like to hear it.

Try not to mention any group you have nothing to do with.
11 posted on 04/23/2003 7:46:58 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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12 posted on 04/23/2003 7:51:21 AM PDT by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: Shooter 2.5
You seem to have this obsessive preoccupation with the NRA.

No more than I have a preoccupation with Brady, Schumer, Feinstein, etc. They all work on varying degrees to take away my rights. The difference is that the NRA does so under false colors.

If you have a better gun group that does it better than the NRA, I'm sure we would all like to hear it.

I work with CSG which is affiliated with GOA. I also belong to JPFO, but they aren't directly political. Both of these are better than the NRA at actually working to protect rights.

13 posted on 04/23/2003 8:01:44 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Shooter 2.5
He's got an obsession? On every gun thread you show up on you denigrate other groups efforts while touting the failed policies of the NRA!

NFA. CGA '68. Brady. AWB. What exactly has the NRA stopped? Even their much lauded Project Exhile is being used against gun owners who get caught in red-tape and technicalities like the Bean fiasco.

If the NRA was actually doing some good, I would agree with you. GOA, SAF, and JPFO have filed more amicus briefs and supported more Rights restoration bills than I have EVER seen the NRA do. I don't say these things lightly either. I was an NRA member from '86 up until they folded, for all intents and purposes, on the Brady Bill.

My Rights are non-negotiable. Either step up to the plate, or get the hell out of the way.

14 posted on 04/23/2003 8:02:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Shooter 2.5
If you have a better gun group that does it better than the NRA, I'm sure we would all like to hear it.

OK.

How about the Second Amendment Sisters vs. the Million Mom March?

NRA couldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.

15 posted on 04/23/2003 8:18:31 AM PDT by Dakotabound
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To: from occupied ga
Maybe your group does a good job in Georgia but that leaves out the rest of the country.

I guess you're not interested in what's happening in Minnesota this morning.
16 posted on 04/23/2003 8:30:34 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Dead Corpse

You can join your buddy in your preoccupation.

I do everything I can to make sure the gun groups work together. I've been on these threads saying that we have to work together so much I might as well copy and paste it.

SAF is in Ohio right now but they have been joined with the NRA. JPFO is an education gun group and they have my respect. SAS is a good group and they had a lot of exposure during the MMM march but they seem to have been silent lately. The last time I heard from them was during the Mount Holyoke[sp] College gun club articles.

We need all of the gun groups working together and that's something the Brady's don't want.

Neither should you.
17 posted on 04/23/2003 8:38:49 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: JohnHuang2
COA and GOA (Gun Owners of America) sound a lot alike.
18 posted on 04/23/2003 8:43:53 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: Shooter 2.5
Too busy with our own crap here in ga - read the SB1 link in post 10. The Michigan folks need to watch out for Michigan

FYI the NRA opposed the amendment to SB1 that simply states that gun owners could not be prosecuted for not having trigger locks. Didn't just stay neutral on it, but actively opposed it. So take your sell out traitors in the NRA make big kissey noises at them, stop wasting my time, and babble on about the wonders of the NRA to someone who hasn't found out that what they really do is completely different from what they say they do.

19 posted on 04/23/2003 8:45:45 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Dead Corpse
He's got an obsession? On every gun thread you show up on you denigrate other groups efforts while touting the failed policies of the NRA!
NFA. CGA '68. Brady. AWB. What exactly has the NRA stopped?
-DC-


Well said.
-- PC is alive and well among those who think they must be obeyed.
20 posted on 04/23/2003 8:45:54 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
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