Because they're let out of jail, those who should be in jail. As for the rest of them, how do they get drugs? Drugs are totally illegal, and not for sale at Wal-Mart. Yet somehow, they manage.
Find that out and put a stop to it.
Like the present spectacular failure of shutting down the drug trade?
What would you rather have, an all out battle royal in the street with inoccent victims getting blasted on a daily basis? All out anarchy and fire and destruction on the streets of Chicago?
1. Innocent victims getting blasted on the streets is already what is happening with the present gun controls. See the title article. 2. There is no case in history where allowing concealed carry to peaceable citizens has resulted in the all-out battle or anarchy that you describe. In light of these two facts, would you care to modify your position?
You're missing my point which is to find out how they are getting them and stop that
And you're missing my point which is that guns are totally banned under all circumstances ... but nevertheless are everywhere. The model of prohibition, especially to a select group of people who are already disinclined to comply with laws will be difficult. May I say impossible.
..it isn't even a conventional gun control issue, I didn't say take guns away from average people with searches.
How will you find out which bad guys are carrying or possessing, without searching a few innocents? In any case, guns are already essentially banned in Chicago, so anyone whether peaceable or not is "criminal" if they have a gun. Hence, the present laws fail to distinguish pistol-packing gang criminals from pistol-packing single women living alone and in fear of their lives.
What should be done is seek out whoever is distributing these weapons find all of them, and deal with that element.
Same as drug dealers? Could you please provide any evidence that this approach you suggest actually works?
Make it impossible for a 15-year-old gang member to get a gun for $30 bucks in the school washrooom.
And how do you do that? There are already laws against guns in schools, and metal detectors in schools, and laws against criminal gang members having guns, and laws against minors owning handguns, and laws against paperless transfers, and laws against people owning handguns generally in Chicago. Unless you post full-time police informants in school bathrooms, and install even more metal detectors, etc, you won't get what you seek ... but you will oppress the non-criminals even more by forcing them through the detectors, and invading their privacy by having cops watch them when they pee.
And I don't have the answer of how to do that, I am not a cop, and I have never even thought about a way to tackle this before this morning.
No, I can see that you don't and you haven't.
But I'll keep you posted if I think of something. I just thin the idea of arming everyone and saying "shoot to kill" will end up with more inoccent deaths and the beasts will end up on top. The answer to a violence problem isn't always "MORE GUNS!"
I never said "arm everyone" - that's a straw man argument. But to the extent that citizens accomplish the task of shooting back when criminals shoot at them, isn't that simply the enormous (citizen) police presence that you struggle to identify, without however passing a single law or increasing the cost of government one dime? Before you answer this with comments about anarchy and blood in the streets, please remember that there has been no example ever in which this feared outcome has come to pass - even though the gun grabbers take out radio ads in each new state that decides to go for a shall-issue bill. And, it's notably absent in Vermont where citizens don't even need permits of any kind to carry concealed weapons. Where is the blood on the streets in that state?