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To: Lotusland
I didn't say anything about more gun control for responsible people, I said do more to get illegal weapons of the street.

At the heart of gun control is declaring more and more guns "illegal guns" and trying to get them "off the street." It's about making the responsible people get fingerprinted and licensed and registered, which the criminals don't and won't bother with. In Chicago, all guns are "illegal guns" because guns are banned there. What do you propose to do? Search people in the streets who are carrying? If they are carrying, they will automatically have "illegal guns" because there is no legal ability for your alleged responsible people to carry them.

And Britian may have increases in crime but that is a trend, they still have an amazingly low homocide rate compared to the U.S.

... and this has always been true for the last 100-150 years, during most of which time guns weren't regulated in either place. Hence, it isn't easy to pin murder rates on gun ownership levels - or gun laws - as the gun grabbers tend to do, and as you are doing.

I don't think gun control is the answer,

Then don't support it! Let responsible people carry guns or at least own them in their homes, and the crime rates will take care of themselves. Your solution, getting more "illegal guns" off the streets, sounds just like the DEA efforts to get drugs off the streets. Billions of dollars and dozens of lost individual liberties later (even for us responsible types) and drugs are purer, cheaper, and more available than when they were legal. Your solution is to step up the War On Guns. Why?

I mean how many people rob a store or get into a street showdown with a rival gang using guns they bought at Wal-mart? Get these illegal guns off the street.

Would a few billion dollars directly to the ATF do it for you? Random searches of people and houses? Clothes-penetrating submillimeter wave radar? Gun-sniffing dogs? Roadblocks? What is your plan? And how does that plan differ from Sarah Brady's plan? Guns are already banned there - there is already zero population of people buying guns at Wal-Mart. Yet gang members manage to have guns, just like they manage to have drugs.

23 posted on 04/22/2003 3:59:29 PM PDT by coloradan
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