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Poor Sean Hannity
King ^ | April 22, 2003 | Charley Reese

Posted on 04/22/2003 4:54:43 AM PDT by Beenliedto

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To: cicero's_son
big deal, so we broke a bunch of stupid clay pots."

There is a lot of stuff that didn't get broken that could have, Especially in the rterms of lives and property. The Left can't get over the successes of the operation so they magnify what happened to some artifacts.

101 posted on 04/22/2003 6:01:34 AM PDT by oyez (Is this a great country or what?)
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To: mr.pink
Yours is a perfect description.
102 posted on 04/22/2003 6:02:38 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: philosofy123
Heads MUST roll ... "

ROTFLOL. That is not likely to happen and just as well.

103 posted on 04/22/2003 6:03:51 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: philosofy123
"Heads MUST roll in the military pecking order to illustrate to the rest of the world that we have no room in our military for negligence."

How ridiculous. You sound just like a bottom-feeding trial lawyer suing a coroporate deep pocket. The fact is that as long as there are human beings there will be negligence (the legal definition of negligence is "...the failure to do what the 'reasonable' person would do in like circumstances." Virtually every human being, at one time or another, acted in a negligent manner. You sound like you want to ban the military. Why not ban the human race while you're at it?
104 posted on 04/22/2003 6:04:13 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: philosofy123
saving US soldiers

I'm talking about SAVING them, I'm talking about the CHANCE of them LOSING THEIR LIVES!

Reasonable people should feel sorry for our mistake

Thata boy..BLAME AMERICA, FIRST, huh?

the commanders ignored the cultural advisors requests/orders

Yeah, I'm certainly happy when our battlefield commanders take ORDERS from Cultural Advisors.

When you're chasing a MASS MURDERER IN A CHINA SHOP, YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE GLASSWARE!

Heads MUST roll in the military pecking order.

So, you're all for ruining the careers of the people that PROTECT US, because a few dishes were broken/stolen? LOL.

105 posted on 04/22/2003 6:04:44 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: oyez
The Left can't get over the successes of the operation so they magnify what happened to some artifacts.

I agree completely. If our soldiers looted the museum, I'd be outraged. The fact that the Iraqis did it, tells me that the west seems to have more respect for Iraqi culture than the Iraqis themselves. As I've said before, the Japanese never looted their musuems after WWII, neither the Germans.

106 posted on 04/22/2003 6:04:44 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Beenliedto
Well I think this is great news. Imagine how badly this war could have turned out according to the anti-war types. We could have had thousands of U.S. troops killed. We could have had chemical/biological warfare. We could have had huge terrorist attacks back home. Israel could have been attacked. Our actions in Iraq could have inflamed the Middle East into a major war. A nuclear bomb could have been used. And on and on.

Yet here it is at the end of the war and the only bad thing that the anti-war types have to hang their hat on is the looting of some museum.

In that respect, this was the most successful war in the history of the United States of America.

107 posted on 04/22/2003 6:04:45 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
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To: philosofy123
and the commanders ignored the cultural advisors requests/orders.

I've been in the military for some time now and I was never aware that cultural advisors were in the chain of command.

108 posted on 04/22/2003 6:05:25 AM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: cicero's_son; Puppage
I agree with Puppage. I also look at it in a religious aspect. What would God be more happy with - that we protected a human life or we protected a thing of the world. Hey, sh** happens. When we look throughout history, how many artifacts never made it this far into history? Where are all the historical artifacts from Solomon's reigh? And I also look at it this way. These works of art were not created and then placed in this building. They were found throughout the ages. If whatever was stolen is not broken, then we can find it again and place it in another building when we do. Myself, I rather look after the welfare of people than things.

Concerning Hannity, I wish there was someone else I could listen to on my drive home from DC in the afternoon. He is such a bore and is historically ignorant.

109 posted on 04/22/2003 6:10:45 AM PDT by 7thson
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To: Beenliedto
just pray to God for a non-ideologue with a three-digit IQ.

I guess that excludes you!

110 posted on 04/22/2003 6:11:06 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Beenliedto
As for anyone being disappointed that the war was conducted rapidly and successfully, that's bull. I was opposed to the war, but I'm damned glad it was quick and there were as few casualties as there have been.

I love watching the leftist and paleocon tweedledumb and tweedledumbers try to gracefully tapdance a reteat from the muddy quagmire of their doom-and-gloom predictions. Bush/Rumsfeld/Franks/Perle showed Reese up as a utterly malinformed idiot about the war, and so Reese is left complaining about the looting of Iraqi museums by Iraqis as if that were the central issue.

Along the same lines, anyday now we can expect the Naderites to gravely announce that some species of intestinal parasite native to Iraq has been pushed to the brink of extinction by brutal and indiscriminate coalition military forces.

Just acknowledge you were wrong, Reese. Show some humility and grace.

111 posted on 04/22/2003 6:16:45 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Miss Marple
Personally, I am hoping that we find that some were destined for the collections of high-profile DNC donors.

But they're ENTITLED to them. Being so much more cultured than us Philistines, you know. If we went to a museum, it would only be to gawk. We can't APPRECIATE those things like they can. Besides, they'll take better care of them, too.

112 posted on 04/22/2003 6:17:33 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: ought-six
If you read my post again, you find my illustration that I am sure you and the rest of the world have seen. AN AMERICAN SOLDIER STANDING WHILE IRAQI PEASANTS GOING INTO BUILDINGS AND DESTROYING ITS CONTENTS. Our reporters even asked our soldiers to do something about the looting, and learned that they have no orders to prevent the looting.

Obviously, the commanders in Washington failed to stress protection of certain sensitive cultural areas.

If the Soldiers are in the neighborhood any way, and the Iraqis are aware of their firing power, all it would have taken is one soldier firing in the air, and the looting would have stopped. But noooo, we have to deny that our brass made a terrible mistake despite of the specific warning from the cultural advisor to the president.

113 posted on 04/22/2003 6:18:52 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: frossca
I would think the vast majority of Academics in Antiquities, History, Archeology, etc, are Leftist, and hence they "left" the heavy lifting to others. Why did they not pitch in, develop a contingency plan and make an effort to help secure the treasured Museum? This Museum has been around a little while (100-1000 yrs?) and obviously well known...could it be that they wanted something to whine and cry about? Maybe they just wanted a shot at buying some "5 finger" discounted Museum Loot...it is interesting how the Left is never happier and rarely able to resist when it can profit from lawlessness!
114 posted on 04/22/2003 6:19:01 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: ought-six
"The fact that the Iraqis themselves trashed the museum speaks volumes about the Iraqis."

That was my first thought too. Maybe after 20 some odd years of living under saddam, the Iraqi people are not capable of self-governing? Where were the local immams? They could have issued a fatwa-- (or do they only issue those for the killing of "infidels"?)

115 posted on 04/22/2003 6:20:00 AM PDT by two23
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To: ChuckHam
The cultural advisors are not in the chain of command. They advised the White House, and the Pentagon on the location of the sensitive areas. The military officers should have taken that list down the chain of commands.
116 posted on 04/22/2003 6:21:53 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Beenliedto
This is a stupid article. Yes the looting of a museum is a bad thing. Is it the end of the world or worse than the ending the regime of Saddam hussein? No.

And this writer is wrong, there are lots fo antis who where hoping for casualties and things to go wrong. That's how much they hate Bush.
117 posted on 04/22/2003 6:23:04 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Beenliedto
I don't blame President Bush. I'm sure he's unaware of their existence. After all, he brags about not reading.

What a jackass. In every war that results in occupation except wars of liberation, the museums, palaces, etc. are looted--in all cases by the invading force (see plunder). I cannot recall a case where it happened in a war of liberation (except in the movies).

When the national museum was plundered, the coalition forces were still engaged in active military operations and charged with humanitarian defense, defense of vital and finctioning infrastructure and security of weapons caches, prisoners of war and surrendering forces. Unfortunately, when the coalition forces liberated Iraq, there were a number of criminals among the liberated (recall that Saddam furloughed most of the criminals prior to the onset of the war).

To expect the liberating forces to be able to step immediately into the role of property guardian for all property of any importance in an instant is naive and unrealistic. Rather, the coalition forces were following strict rules of engagement and prioritizing their activities in a manner that maximized the operation's success and minimized civilian casualties and interruption of vital services.

Leave it to jerks like this guy to seize on an admittedly unfortunate aspect of an otherwise overwhelmingly successful operation that released an enslaved people from a terrible regime and made more secure all people threatened by a known sponsor of terror.

This guy betrays himself in a number of places with the "Bush-is-stupid" mantra (I just pray to God for a non-ideologue with a three-digit IQ).

And here is my favorite:

Let me spell it out for the mentally impaired: People are anti-war because they do not wish to see anyone die — our soldiers, their soldiers, our civilians or their civilians. Anti-war is pro-life.

What does this jackass think was going on before the coalition forces went in? Bad guys were killing innocent civilians, threatening to do the same to neighboring peoples and sponsoring terrorists who would do the same.

118 posted on 04/22/2003 6:25:16 AM PDT by Zebra
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To: Puppage
And, just how many US lives are YOU willing to lose the protect those "pots"?

Not as many as protecting the Ministry of Oil building apparently.
119 posted on 04/22/2003 6:27:22 AM PDT by newcats
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To: Beenliedto
Now just remember that a few short months ago, everyone on Free republic loved this guy.

I thought this guy retired?
Anyway, he thinks the Palestinian bombing of school buses and coffee shops is a legitimate "war" effort, so his sudden giving a crap about a stinking museum is to be taken with a grain of salt. Laughed off, in fact.

Reese has admitted in the past that he has been a loyal Democrat most of his life, even if there were ample signs of shame and lucidity during the Clinton years.

120 posted on 04/22/2003 6:28:01 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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