[Leisler]

So like, IBM, MicroSoft, GM, United Technoligies don't innovate and produce spectalular results? Furthermore, no disrespct to SAS, but they are a pipsweak company. A boutique, a cult. I don't think one example makes the rule.

[Archangelsk]

If you can call a company that does over a billion in sales "pipsqueak" more power to you. Personally, I've never understood the awe people have for corporations that under no condition benefit them directly. The old saw of Gates, Gerschner et. al. entering a bar and "elevating" the net worth of all the sots in there holds true here too.

I'd like to see Ellison, Gates, Jobs, etc. take their companies private and see what happens (that'll happen about the time that swine are cleared for takeoff).