[altura]

I dunno.

I'd have to put LBJ as worst president.

LBJ was actually able to accomplish some of the horrible things he espoused ... he may have believed in them, I wouldn't know.

He destroyed the Black family unit with his great society and we are still in the aftermath of that destruction which has never been effectively repaired.

He horribly botched Vietnam.

Clinton, on the other hand, while certainly the nastiest and most corrupt, was too narcissistic and bent on being the rock star president to get much done. (thanks be to God).

[Pharlap]

I agree with your assessment of Johnson. But, I believe if Hillary's health plan had succeeded there would have been more where that came from. And, there might still be if she is ever elected. By the way, other Democrats did some pretty bad things too. Franklin Roosevelt tried to "pack" the Supreme Court to prevent the justices from declaring much of his "recovery" legislation unconstitutional.

[Paulus Invictus]

But then there was Kennedy--more immoral than the Felon, more dangerous than JBJ, more a liar than the Felon (with the aid of a compliant media), and more inept at international relations than Carter (wow! and that's really bad!).

RATS in the presidency have given us more wars and human losses in the wars we won and lost, than any presidents ever. RATS in power have ruined the Republic, the economy (call it socialism in action), and the morals of the youth of the nation.

[banjo joe]

LBJ was actually able to accomplish some of the horrible things he espoused ... he may have believed in them, I wouldn't know.

Nah. The story's circulated for years how he said, upon passage of several of the great society bills,"I'll have them nigras votin' democrat fer the next hunnerd years".

I believe it. It worked.

[ought-six]

George Will, a gentleman, scholar, and a very fine writer, had this to say about Bill Clinton:

"Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person ever to be president."

[UCANSEE2]

I am sorry, I have to disagree.

He destroyed the Black family unit with his great society and we are still in the aftermath of that destruction which has never been effectively repaired.

One man destroyed the black family unit? Who are you kidding? Yourself?

You mean the mothers of black families just gave up because LBJ 'founded' the great society? That black men decided to get black women pregnant, then ditch them, because LBJ was President?

He horribly botched Vietnam.

Are you aware of the state of the world when LBJ had the office of President dropped in his lap? That he and his wife were afflicted with mental depression over becoming President through Kennedy's death? That Lady Bird and Lyndon were horribly upset over the deaths of American soldiers in Vietnam? That it was the infighting between Republicans and Democrats, CIA and Army Intel,the Media and the public that led to the indecisiveness over Vietnam. That LBJ was being torn this way and that, while wanting to do the right thing, and being told he couldn't? That he didn't run for re-election because of the strain the Presidency caused on his body and soul? That he died in pain shouldering responsibility for the wrongs of Vietnam and the unneeded deaths of our soldiers?

LBJ was President during he Vietnam conflict, and took the responsibility for the botched job, but was he the sole reason for it's failure ?

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