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Saddam's secret files: How he ruled.
MSNBC ^ | Melinda Liu

Posted on 04/20/2003 3:22:12 PM PDT by Mihalis

The Saddam Files At the Iraqi Intelligence Service, a man walked up with a grimy sack of documents and tapes. ‘Tell the world what happened here,’ he said

By Melinda Liu, Rod Nordland and Evan Thomas NEWSWEEK

April 28 issue — After 9-11, as talk of war against Iraq picked up in Washington, the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) became jittery. ON OCT. 29, 2002, a memo from Directorate 14 (in charge of special operations and “wet work” like assassinations) reported that “one of our sources in the United States, with a high level of reliability, says the CIA and the so-called opposition have a joint plan to bring ‘quislings’ to Iraq from the north and south to gather information and await future missions. Our informant will be one of them.” The memo suggests, disturbingly, that Saddam had a mole somewhere inside U.S. intelligence. Did he? Might he still? As the CIA’s legendary mole hunter James Jesus Angleton once said, espionage is a “wilderness of mirrors,” not least within spy services themselves, so it is hard to know. IIS agents routinely recycled old newspaper clips from foreign media and passed them off as secret reports from “informants of high reliability.” In a mid-2002 memo, the IIS chief reported that Saddam himself had ordered “a reassessment of our people abroad because information that the stations overseas send in are all in the public domain or from the media.”

‘TELL THE WORLD WHAT HAPPENED HERE’ Like the Nazis and all good totalitarians, Saddam’s Baathist henchmen kept records. Last week, at the Baghdad headquarters of the Mukhabarat, the secret police, an Iraqi man went up to photographers from NEWSWEEK and the Los Angeles Times carrying a bulging, grimy white rice sack. “Tell the world what happened here,” he said. Inside were more than 200 cassette tapes, videos and passports, photographs and negatives, CDs and floppy disks, as well as a fat binder thick with documents addressed TO THE DIRECTOR GENERAL OF THE IRAQI INTELLIGENCE SERVICE.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archives; blackfiles; files; iraqifreedom; iraqwar; iss; saddam; warlist

1 posted on 04/20/2003 3:22:13 PM PDT by Mihalis
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To: Mihalis; *war_list; W.O.T.; 11th_VA; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; knak; sakka; lainde; ...
OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST
2 posted on 04/20/2003 3:44:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: Mihalis
Only the ones who've lived this cruelty can imagine it.
3 posted on 04/20/2003 3:52:16 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Mihalis
We see a few articles on this, but has anyone seen anything on TV? Why have none of the news stations bothered to do anything on this?
4 posted on 04/20/2003 4:25:18 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Mihalis
There is a lot of information in the original article.
5 posted on 04/20/2003 4:29:06 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: Gritty
Yes, well worth reading. I can't believe the source!
6 posted on 04/20/2003 5:26:59 PM PDT by ChemistCat (My new bumper sticker: MY OTHER DRIVER IS A ROCKET SCIENTIST)
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To: Mihalis
The memo suggests, disturbingly, that Saddam had a mole somewhere inside U.S. intelligence. Did he? Might he still?

If so, I suggest he's probably having a bit of trouble getting in touch with headquarters these days.

7 posted on 04/20/2003 5:41:47 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Mihalis
This might sound strange but I want Saddam and his evil sons to be alive. I want them to watch the celebration of freed Iraqi's....I want them to see their precious palaces being looted by his own people. I want them to see how hated they are in Iraq and watch as Saddam statue's fall one right after another.

Then I want Saddam and his sons turned over to the Iraqi's to do what ever they want to....perhaps making Saddam sit in a torture chamber watching his sons suffering tortures that are the same as the ones they inflicted.

Is that too harsh?
8 posted on 04/20/2003 5:48:51 PM PDT by Arpege92
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FROM THE ARTICLE:

Ghaleb Kubba was something of a novelty in Saddam’s Iraq, wealthy and prosperous, but still not a party member. The owner of a couple of banks and proprietor of the local Pepsi bottling factory in Basra,...Kubba’s money insulated his family from mayhem, but it did not shield him from witnessing the almost casual slaughter of his people. Last week he recalled a “scene that haunts me still.” Kubba was driving his Mercedes through Basra’s Saad Square when he came upon some 600 men who had been detained while police checked their IDs. According to Kubba, “Chemical Ali” Hassan al-Majid, Saddam’s half brother and the tyrant of southern Iraq, stopped and inquired, “No IDs? Just shoot them all.” Kubba watched as “they shot over 600 people in front of me.”

Banality of Evil Bump


9 posted on 04/20/2003 5:58:49 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Arpege92
Harsh, but understandable.

Certainly the Iraqis would understand--"an eye for any eye" is the rule everywhere in the Middle East.

But of course it would solve nothing.

I rather liked the way the Israelis handled Eichmann: A trial, with witnesses, and the opportunity for the accused to respond.

After that, a short, sharp shock.
10 posted on 04/20/2003 6:00:50 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Mihalis
Uday apparently liked to cruise the Internet to download pornography.

And descriptions of torture from "NGO" (UN?) sites.

He may have tried to join a chat room.

Lol. Just have LibertyForum check which account has been inactive since the first bunker-buster :)).

11 posted on 04/20/2003 6:05:06 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Mihalis
Newsweek and the LA Times?? Do you think any of this stuff will ever see the light of day?
12 posted on 04/20/2003 6:09:33 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: Arpege92
too harsh?
No, I feel the same way. It will almost be a disappointment if he's dead.
13 posted on 04/20/2003 7:37:19 PM PDT by Mihalis
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