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To: ContentiousObjector
that is bullshit and you know it.

Which part? Identify by number:

  1. The BATF had a knock-and-announce warrant only; it did not authorize dynamic entry.
  2. The BATF planned to use concussion grenades, and to shoot dogs, preemptively.
  3. Concussion grenades can cause lethal or maiming injuries if they go off near someone, and they were thrown without regard for whether they might do so.
  4. BATF agents outside the building fired at the building with recless disregard for what they might hit, for they had no way of seeing who was where inside the building.
  5. BATF agents inside the building fired at walls they could not see through, on the basis that one or more shots had come through those walls.
  6. BATF agents were armed with ammunition which could easily penetrate several walls while retaining lethal velocity.
  7. Agents were not in radio contact with each other, or with leadership, and thus had no way of knowing where other agents might be when they fired through walls.
Seven specific claims about the initial raid, all from "official" sources. Which claim(s) do you dispute?

BTW, I never called Koresh a hero. He, and the others in his home, were victims. Liberals like to attach heroic stature to victimhood, and perhaps they expect others to do likewise. I for one merely see Koresh et al. as victims of a couple of maniacal government agencies.

26 posted on 04/19/2003 2:58:34 PM PDT by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: supercat
when the cult members opened fire on the ATF whatever happened to be on their warrent became irrelivent, they were under attack by heavily armed criminals and had to react accordingly,

getting shot in the back while fleeing wasn't an appealing choice

30 posted on 04/19/2003 3:02:06 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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