[FirstTomato]

They do manage to all sound alike and trumpet the same trash, don't they?

You don't seem to care about the rights of your fellow citizens--you only care about what their ideology is. Now, I happen not to agree with the philosophies of the people who died at Ruby Ridge, nor Waco, nor the MOVE seige. But I am sure as heck going to defend their rights not to be killed by their government without due process.

And if you had any brains, you'd do the same. Because YOU could be next. If you expect people to respect YOUR rights then start respecting the rights of others--even those people you consider "trash".

This basic principle is why Gerry Spence defended Randy Weaver--and won. Gerry Spence of course hated Randy Weaver's philosphy, but he knew that the government was WRONG to act like it did.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

They had every right to due process in a court, which they weren't willing to face - so they did a standoff.

[Cultural Jihad]

You speak of 'due process' when the topic is some flakes who refused to be served with summons or be subjected to lawful arrest? The only ones who thwarted 'due process' were the anti-self-government loons.