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Pentagon Expects Long-Term Access to Key Bases in Iraq
The New York Times ^ | 4-20-03 | THOM SHANKER and ERIC SCHMITT

Posted on 04/19/2003 10:06:36 AM PDT by harrowup

WASHINGTON, April 19 — The United States is planning a long-term military relationship with the emerging government of Iraq, one that would grant the Pentagon access to military bases and project American influence into the heart of the unsettled region, senior Bush administration officials say.

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What a totally stupid idea. With any luck it will deflate before it blows.
1 posted on 04/19/2003 10:06:36 AM PDT by harrowup
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To: harrowup
It's a great idea, and it's absolutely essential.
2 posted on 04/19/2003 10:10:39 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: harrowup; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos
I'm certain this was in the plans all along. It passes the 'makes sense' test.
3 posted on 04/19/2003 10:11:06 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz

Pentagon Expects Long-Term Access to Key Bases in Iraq

By THOM SHANKER and ERIC SCHMITT

WASHINGTON, April 19 — The United States is planning a long-term military relationship with the emerging government of Iraq, one that would grant the Pentagon access to military bases and project American influence into the heart of the unsettled region, senior Bush administration officials say.

American military officials, in interviews this week, spoke of maintaining perhaps four bases in Iraq that could be used in the future: one at the international airport just outside Baghdad; another at Tallil, near Nasiriya in the south; the third at an isolated airstrip called H-1 in the western desert, along the old oil pipeline that runs to Jordan; and the last at the Bashur air field in the Kurdish north.

The military is already using these bases to support continuing operations against the remnants of the old government, to deliver supplies and relief aid, and for reconnaissance patrols. But as the invasion force withdraws in the months ahead, turning over control to a new Iraqi government, Pentagon officials expect to gain access to the bases in the event of some future crisis.

Whether that can be arranged depends on relations between Washington and whoever takes control in Baghdad. If the ties are close enough, the military relationship could become one of the most striking developments in a strategic revolution now playing out across the Middle East and Southwest Asia, from the Mediterranean to the Indian Ocean.

A military foothold in Iraq would be felt across the border in Syria, and, in combination with the continuing United States presence in Afghanistan, it would virtually surround Iran with a new web of American influence.

"There will be some kind of a long-term defense relationship with a new Iraq, similar to Afghanistan," said one senior administration official. "The scope of that has yet to be defined — whether it will be full-up operational bases, smaller forward operating bases or just plain access."

These goals do not contradict the administration's official policy of rapid withdrawal from Iraq, and the United States is acutely aware that the growing American presence in the Middle East and Southwest Asia invites charges of empire-building and might create new targets for terrorists.

So without fanfare, the Pentagon has also begun to shrink its military footprint in the region, trying to ease domestic strains in Turkey and Jordan.

In a particularly important development, officials said the United States was likely to reduce American forces in Saudi Arabia, as well. The main reason for that presence, after all, was to protect the Saudi government from the threat Iraq has posed since its invasion of Kuwait in 1990.

Already, in Turkey, where a newly elected government bowed to domestic pressure and denied the Pentagon access to bases and supply lines for the war with Iraq, the United States has withdrawn nearly all of its 50 attack and support airplanes at the Incirlik air base, from which they flew patrols over Iraq's north for more than a decade.

Turkish officials say a new postwar security arrangement with Washington will emerge.

"These issues will define a new relationship and a new U.S. presence abroad," said Faruk Logoglu, Turkey's ambassador to the United States. "But the need for an American presence in the region will not be diminished."

Regardless of how quickly the Americans reverse the buildup of the last several months, it is plain that since Sept. 11, 2001, there has been a concerted diplomatic and military effort to win permission for United States forces to operate from the formerly Communist nations of Eastern Europe, across the Mediterranean, throughout the Middle East and the Horn of Africa, and across Central Asia, from the periphery of Russia to Pakistan's ports on the Indian Ocean.

It is a swath of Western influence not seen for generations.

These bases and access agreements have established an expanded American presence, or deepened alliance ties, throughout one of the world's most strategic regions.

"The attacks of Sept. 11 changed more than just the terrorism picture," said one senior administration official. "On Sept. 11, we woke up and found ourselves in Central Asia. We found ourselves in Eastern Europe as never before, as the gateway to Central Asia and the Middle East."

The newest security agreements will come in Iraq. Col. John Dobbins, commander of Tallil Forward Air Base, said the Air Force plan envisioned "probably two bases that will stay in Iraq for an amount of time."

"That amount of time, obviously, is an unknown," he added.

In addition to Tallil, the other base for the Air Force is at Bashur, in the north, Pentagon officials said. The Army currently holds the Baghdad airport. The H-1 base in the west has allowed Special Operations forces to move out of their secret bases in Jordan and Saudi Arabia and set up a forward headquarters.

The establishment of these bases follows the strategy used in Afghanistan, where the American military first seized Forward Operating Base Rhino in the desert south of Kandahar, before moving that headquarters into the city. The American military has its senior headquarters in Afghanistan at Bagram airfield outside of Kabul, and it has a number of regional civil affairs offices elsewhere in the nation.

In Afghanistan, and in Iraq, the American military will do all it can to minimize the size of its deployed forces, and there will probably never be an announcement of permanent stationing of troops.

Not permanent basing, but permanent access is all that is required, officials say.

For the Afghan conflict, the Pentagon negotiated new basing agreements with Pakistan and two former Soviet republics, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan. But the arrangements also signaled a long-term commitment to the region and gave the military the ability to deploy forces there quickly.

Although the new bases in Iraq are primarily for mounting comprehensive postwar security operations, senior administration officials make no secret that the American presence at those bases near Syria and Iran and long-term access to them "will make them nervous."

Or as Secretary of State Colin L. Powell put it on Thursday: "We have been successful in Iraq. There is a new dynamic in that part of the world."

Even so, administration officials are quick to echo Mr. Powell's assertions that Washington has "no war plan right now" for Syria and Iran.

"So don't ask if our tanks are going to move right or left out of Iraq," said one senior administration official. "There are a lot of political weapons that can be unleashed to achieve our goals."

Among the pressures to be exerted against Syria will be a campaign to focus the world's attention on a new administration message. "Syria occupies Lebanon," one senior administration official said. "This is the repression of one Arab state by another. Plus there are terror training camps in the Bekaa Valley."

In addition to tamping down public anxiety over possible military action against Syria, or even Iran, officials are quick to argue that these two nations have the most significant vote as to whether the United States will ever apply the template of "regime change" in Iraq to them.

"This does not mean, necessarily, that other governments have to fall," one senior administration official said. "They can moderate their behavior."

Administration officials express keen awareness that they must show humility, and not hubris, in the aftermath of their quick victory in Iraq. "We need to be flexible, and modulate our actions according to the political interests of our allies," said one senior administration official.

The senior official predicted that the American military would "modulate our footprint" in Saudi Arabia, which was so concerned about its role in the air war against Iraq that it blocked Pentagon efforts to station correspondents there.

Lt. Gen. T. Michael Moseley, who directed the air war from a sophisticated command center outside of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, is expected to meet with senior Saudi officials in the next few days to continue discussions about the future of the American military presence there, a senior military official said.

But administration, Pentagon and military officials say it is unlikely that American forces will withdraw completely from the desert kingdom. Military officials are discussing a range of options.

In the Iraq war, American and British warplanes flew from 30 bases in about a dozen countries. In the postwar period, a senior military official said, "We will draw down from those 30 bases, but in a way that will allow us to flex or increase, when we need to."

The roles of many countries in support of the American war effort are only now coming to light.

Two Eastern European countries eager to join NATO quickly offered logistics bases when Turkey blocked the Pentagon's request to base support planes on its soil.

Romania allowed the American military to fly troops, cargo, fuel and vehicles from Europe aboard C-130, C-141 and C-17 transport planes from an air base near the Black Sea port of Constanta. Eight to 10 planes fly missions to Iraq from the base.

About 200 miles to the south, in Burgas, Bulgaria, the authorities opened a training camp and adjacent airfield to 400 Air Force personnel and about six KC-10 refueling planes.

Before the war started, some 900 Army troops established a training camp for Iraqi exiles at Taszar in Hungary, a new NATO member. The Iraqis were dispatched to serve as guides, interpreters and scouts for American ground troops in Iraq.

In the Persian Gulf, the Pentagon struck a new agreement with Qatar to allow Gen. Tommy R. Franks, the allied commander in the region, to establish his wartime headquarters outside of Doha, the capital, and to send many combat aircraft to Al Udeid air base, after the Saudis would not allow missions to be flown from their territory.

Bahrain and especially Kuwait, the staging area for the ground invasion, provided essential bases for the Iraq war. But with Iraq occupied, the Pentagon will now review its long-term force and access requirements in the gulf states.

"The subject of a footprint for the United States post-Iraq is something that we're discussing and considering," Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said this week. "But that will take some time to sort through."

4 posted on 04/19/2003 10:13:28 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: harrowup
As many of us expected. Absolutely necessary for the long-term Mideast strategery.
5 posted on 04/19/2003 10:13:39 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Dog Gone
Absolutely!
6 posted on 04/19/2003 10:13:57 AM PDT by ffusco ("Essiri sempri la santu fora la chiesa.")
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GWB As many of us expected. Absolutely necessary for the long-term Mideast strategery.

Absolutely the worst. Think about what this will mean to the entire region...Qatar is one thing, but we will need to leave Saudi-Arabia soon and we must never ever permanently base troops in the region...that is what our carrier groups are for.

Dog Gone I wish you hadn't posted the entire article.

7 posted on 04/19/2003 10:23:43 AM PDT by harrowup
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To: harrowup
Stupid??? Why do you think we undertook this war?
8 posted on 04/19/2003 10:27:17 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: harrowup
"What a totally stupid idea. With any luck it will deflate before it blows."

How so? It places our military forces adjacent to virtually all of the probable sources of Mid East terrorism. And, thus, in a position to respond or apply pressure, as appropriate.

Second, it allows these forces to be moved out of Saudi Arabia, where they have become a bone of contention. The Saudis have indicated they are prepared to reform, but that the continuing presence of U.S. military forces is a distraction. I'm inclined to agree and would cut them slack, if we're convinced that reform will actually take place.

Further, we can keep the Saudis honest by influencing Iraqi oil production and marketing. Thus, in a position to impact Saudi oil income.

Moreover, given the unique role of the Saudis, as protectors of the holy places of Mecca and Medina, we're better off bringing pressure to bear on Mid East terrorists (and terrorist states) from bases in Iraq than from Arabia.

I don't doubt that this has been part of the plan all along.

9 posted on 04/19/2003 10:27:29 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: George W. Bush
necessary for the long-term Mideast strategery.
. . . and indeed for the stability of Iraq itself.

Looting occurs while we're dispatching the Saddamites--and it's OUR fault.
The Iraqis don't even have a nominal government yet, a month after the beginning of the liberation of the country, and it's OUR fault.

Well, you can't have responsibility without authority. We'll have to build an Iraq Army which can be trusted by the Kurds, Shiites, and Sunnis--and, let us hope, the 1% Christians as well. So a military relationship between Iraq and the US is absolutely necessary for Iraq itself.


10 posted on 04/19/2003 10:30:50 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: harrowup
Dog Gone I wish you hadn't posted the entire article.

Why not? It's the best way to get intelligent discussion about the contents. Didn't you want people to read it?

11 posted on 04/19/2003 10:32:49 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: harrowup
"...but we will need to leave Saudi-Arabia soon and we must never ever permanently base troops in the region."

It's not permanent. Only until the terrorist threat has been liquidated.

That may take a generation. On the other hand, it may not...

12 posted on 04/19/2003 10:42:13 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: harrowup
What a totally stupid idea. With any luck it will deflate before it blows.

Oh. I thought that one of the main points of going into Iraq was to have a staging area to put pressure on Iran and Syria. Or were you living in an alternative universe?

13 posted on 04/19/2003 10:43:35 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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Most of the difficulty in this war was inserting American ground troops. We cannot have a situation where it takes months and months to move American ground assets into the region and then we must horse trade for the right to land them. We need permanent bases in the region so we will be able to keep at least two divisions permamently in the Persian Gulf.

Face it, Iraq is going to be a permanent American client state. That is the way it is and the way it should be (we desparately need lots and lots of cheap oil and if more countries in that region followed Saddam's lead and switched to the euro America's economy will collapse.). Umm Qasr has to become the new Gitmo and Subic Bay.
14 posted on 04/19/2003 10:49:43 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: harrowup
"What a totally stupid idea. With any luck it will deflate before it blows."

This was inevitable. Part of the reason Iraq was taken first was because it was a strategic gold mine, bordering so many states of concern. This alleviates the multi-billion dollar political nightmares and year and a half response times to react credibly to antagonistic behavior in the region.

I suspect you're concerned that if we leave a force and equipment some place there that we'll be accused of "occupying" Iraq and not leaving it to the people. You know of course this will happen anyway. People will either believe that we're occupying it with our puppet government because that's what they want to believe, or they'll look at it rationally and see that fair elections were held.

15 posted on 04/19/2003 10:49:44 AM PDT by elfman2
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What a totally stupid idea. With any luck it will deflate before it blows.

Are you nuts? We have had long term military relationships with many of our friends around the world. Once the Iraqis realize we aren't colonizing them they might want our protection in the area. If not we will leave, just like we left the Phillipines when they asked us to. Please stop watching Al Jazeera, it's distorting your thinking.

16 posted on 04/19/2003 10:51:11 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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"(we desparately need lots and lots of cheap oil and if more countries in that region followed Saddam's lead and switched to the euro America's economy will collapse.). Umm Qasr has to become the new Gitmo and Subic Bay. "

We're there to keep the neighbors from exporting terrorism, not the keep them exporting oil. That will happen regardless, even Saddam wanted to export as much oil as possible.

17 posted on 04/19/2003 10:53:53 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: harrowup
What a totally stupid idea. With any luck it will deflate before it blows.

We have to do this. First, we no longer need bases in Germany, so we have assets we can move to Iraq. Second, This is not an occupation, since Iraqis will form their own government. Third, Iraq no longer has a military, and will not be allowed to form one in the near future. Iraq does need protection from Syria, Turkey and Iran. Who better to provide it than the US. Fourth, the Brits deserve a base too, most likely near Basra. Fifth, the US must absolutely control Umm Qasr and the flow of oil into the rest of the world. The govt of Iraq cannot be in charge of regulating the energy market. It would give them power that we can't allow them to have.

I'm surprised we are limiting our presence to 4 bases, plus the possible UK base at Basrah. The US should have at least one more base near the border with Iran.

18 posted on 04/19/2003 11:03:53 AM PDT by Guyin4Os
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To: harrowup
What a totally stupid idea. With any luck it will deflate before it blows.

To conquer and abandon serves no useful purpose other than to win military glory. However, wars are fought to secure geo-political objectives.

In Iraq, those geo-political objectives are:

1. Destroy the Iraqi Baathist regime as a threat to the region.
2. Turn Iraq from being a bastion of support for Arab/Islamist terrorism into a bastion for the destruction of radical Arab/Islamist terrorism.
3. Secure the safety of Middle East oil, the world's largest known reserves of oil, without which, like it or not, the Western economy tanks.

Without a U.S. military presence, Iraq will be ruled within one month by whichever two-bit Iraqi warlord or mullah can round up 20,000 Iraqi thugs armed with AK-47's.

That will last for another two months until the Baathists in Syria and the Islamo-fascist mullahs in Iran fight over Iraq's carcass like jackals fighting over the American lion's abandoned kill. That, in turn, will determine if the future Iraq will be ruled by Syrian backed Arab terrorrists such as Hezbollah or by Iranian backed Arab terrorists such as Islamic Jihad .

A U.S. presence in Iraq will mean that we can dominate Syria and Iran with land-based air power across their borders and with heavy armored forces if necessary. The negative effect that will have on Syrian and Iranian sponsorship of terrorism is invaluable.

A U.S. presence in Iraq will mean that we will no longer need the good graces of Saudi Arabia or Turkey as a land stepping stone to the region and we will be able to exert pressure on Saudi Arabia to clean out their Islamist terrorist rat-holes.

Yes, we can again abandon the region after Gulf War II just as we did after Gulf War I and just as we abandoned Europe after World War I.

However, the "Conquer and Abandon" strategy only leads to World War II after World War I, Gulf War II after Gulf War I and Gulf War III ten years after Gulf War II.

19 posted on 04/19/2003 11:09:53 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Mister Baredog; All
Are you nuts? We have had long term military relationships with many of our friends around the world. Once the Iraqis realize we aren't colonizing them they might want our protection in the area. If not we will leave, just like we left the Phillipines when they asked us to.

The first problem with your wishful thinking is that we didn't leave the Phillipines when they asked us. The Phillipines finally got us out of Subic Bay and they still resent our mere presence in the region.

This is the exact quagmire envisioned by all who understand the dynamics of the region.

Please think about a very clear problem...Israel is in the middle of the problem and the solution and we don't base troops there because the Arabs would immediately be entitled to demonstrate our lack of objectivity. So we don't have a base in Israel.

Turkey is a long term ally through NATO and they don't dare let our troops transit to say nothing about basing them. We barely have any real presence there anymore save for air. Our navy has no more privilege anymore than the Russians do...and during the Korean War our closest ally was Turkey.

No, we have no business with imposing bases anywhere in the region.

We have billions invested in carrier groups and tough tony the personnel can't handle being away from Norfolk, SanDiego or China Lake.

This topic will dominate the Sunday Talking Heads...and the administration will be royally roasted and deservedly so.

I pray this is a trial balloon destined to failure.

I apologize for not being able to answer each of you individually but I will take some time and attempt to counter what I consider to be dangerous thinking, albeit inviting.

20 posted on 04/19/2003 11:19:41 AM PDT by harrowup
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