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To: Minty
Nice article, which made me wonder, whyis it that we are not seeing more pictures of the things that have been found, like the terrorist training camps, the airplane used to train them and stuff like that. I think that people need visuals or it will be a weakpoint that the dems will exploit.

I have been screaming at the TV screen for weeks now asking the same question.
The answer is simple. The administration is whistling past the graveyard, and hoping time and space will be arrested and the logical consequence never noticed by anyone.
Let me explain.

To paraphrase Winston Churchill, Iraq has gone from Stone Age barbarism, rule by terror and politics by disappearance firmly embedded in the culture, to demonstrations against the U.S. liberators demanding their "rights", without a decent interval of civilization.
This patently won't work; can't work.

This will be followed shortly by overwhelming, violent and murderous demonstration throughout the muslim "world". The "mother's milk" of muslim (arab) culture.

This will be accompanied by internecine murder on a continuing basis, for which all armies are ill equipped.
Impossible to put down without significant loss of life.
Kill them now or kill them later.
Or go home and wonder what happened.

How else to fight a society in which the first approach is always to eliminate (physically) the enemy?

Topping all these points is the 800-pound gorilla in the Drawing Room that our administration and our experts continue to ignore:

The extremist violent and intractable "muslims" are not a tiny minority; They are a distinct majority, at least functionally. No evidence of an effective counterweight can be seen. The occasional group of children waving and smiling at our troops is a pathetic counterweight to the tens of thousands of angry spittle-spewing hateful neanderthals, who will equally shoot a rival on the road or at the "suit and tie" nation-building symposium.

To state it as briefly as possible, Islam sucks. And no suggestion will animate the mobs more readily than the suggestion that religion have no part in the center of power in the "new" Iraq.

Unfortunately, that is the one hope at success: to emulate the grand dream of Ataturk, and forge a religion-free Iraq.
Islam is a potentially useful servant and a terrible sadistic master. Again unfortunately, that 800-pound gorilla is not likely to "go quietly into that good night..."

22 posted on 04/19/2003 11:52:17 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: Publius6961
Does illbay know that you have dared to call any muslim capable of violence?
25 posted on 04/19/2003 12:38:17 PM PDT by flyer182
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To: Publius6961
I do agree that their culture and way of thinking is in the dark ages. For instance their concept of justice to us is barbaric and those differences are abysmal. But.... but.... there is one thing that they can learn and we have shown to have the means to teach and it is brute force reaction. It is risky, but effective for this kind of mentality and situation, only if the person carries it to the last consequences. Regardless of what we do or don't do, this problem is not going to dissipate. It has set itself on a head collusion course against us before 9/11.

After 9/11 it has come to depend on us, but only in what we allow it to inflict on us. Its either we face it now, or our future generations will have to face after living under its shadow of terror.

It is simple. They came and kicked a hornet’s nest. We cannot go and do the same because if we do it, we lose. We have to go and squash the nest with the hornets inside and in such a way that if one escapes that thing will fly as far away as possible from any other nest. That may be drastic but is merciful because it cuts it off and saves lives. If I can understand that, a midlife housewife, mother of three, who cleans the house and bake the cookies any one can see it. But they need to be shown the facts.

Maybe they are up to carry it to its end. We are so close to make it ...

26 posted on 04/19/2003 12:41:05 PM PDT by Minty
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