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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"[A US civil war] will arrive in February, 2009, shortly before or immediately after Hillary's inauguration."

I disagree, although sometimes, I think that may be the only way to restore freedom in the US. The reason this won't happen is that, while Communists achieve totalitarianism through violent revolution, the Socialists are more patient and insidious. The Socialists achieve totalitarianism by the "silent" invasion of our schools, our governments, our judiciaries, and our social institutions. They disguise their true agendas and mask their true identities. They take advantage of the ignorance, complacency, and greed of the masses to gain power and control.

Yes, there are Communist revolutionaries in America: people who would like to quickly and violently overthrow our form of government. But they are the fringe element. The more dangerous--and vastly more widespread and powerful--are the Socialists who every day are patiently chipping away at America's Constitution, sovereignty, and way of life. These are people you know: Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Lee, Maxine Waters, Henry Waxman, etc. These people are the malignant cancer that's metastasizing through the body politic. They intend to achieve totalitarian revolution--and will likely do so--without having to fire a shot.

47 posted on 04/18/2003 4:42:48 PM PDT by SpyGuy
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To: SpyGuy
"Between two types of men who seek to create inconsistent kinds of worlds, I see no alternative but force. It seems all societies rest upon the death of men." I don't know who said that, but I think it accurately describes the situation we have between the Leftist/Liberal/Marxist-Leninist/Anti-Capitalist/Naderite/Tree-huggin', fur coat spray-paintin', Free Mumia-hollerin' Nebuchadnezzar Division of the Democratic Guard and the Conservative/Libertarian/Constitutionalist patriotic Americans.

I have little faith in the Republican Party. I think they will blow the 2008 election, and when the Clintonistas get back in they will make sure they are NEVER out of power again. I do not think I am alone in that assessment, thus my prediction that we will have it out militarily with these slime bags around Inauguration Day, 2009, when it becomes brutally obvious that there is no alternative. I am not particularly optimistic that right will prevail in that struggle. I fear that the whole concept of an armed citizenry being the reset button on the Constitution has been overtaken by events and technology. The Fedayeen Saddam were highly motivated, suicidally so, but their motivation availed them little against M1 Abrams and Bradleys and AAV's and thermal imagery and highly trained, body armor clad soldiers and Marines. The same or even more advanced technologies and skill sets that conquered Iraq could be turned on us by the Hillary regime, and by that time all we could do is choose to die on our feet rather than live on our knees.

50 posted on 04/18/2003 5:44:59 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 ("They appear willing to die. We are trying our best to help them out in that endeavour.")
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To: SpyGuy
These are people you know: Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Lee, Maxine Waters, Henry Waxman, etc. These people are the malignant cancer that's metastasizing through the body politic. They intend to achieve totalitarian revolution--and will likely do so--without having to fire a shot.

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Bingo ! Omronnnie
70 posted on 04/19/2003 3:08:33 AM PDT by omronnie
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To: SpyGuy
I totally agree with you.
71 posted on 04/19/2003 3:38:52 AM PDT by DBtoo
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