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His crime was just sex
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| April 18, 2003
| Bob Thomas
Posted on 04/18/2003 12:53:26 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
They weren't really applauding Polanski, they were indulging in the a bas les bourgeois that serves the artistic community to declare its superiority to the people who fund it. If raping a child is what it takes to show how different he (and they) are from us mere conventionally-moraled mortals, than raping a child is cool.
To: new cruelty
Geeez, for the first three or four sentences I thought you were talking about Bill Clinton.
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:00:48 PM PDT
by
rs79bm
To: rs79bm
eerie.
To: new cruelty
Hollywood makes art so the culturally depraved have something to talk about !
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:07:15 PM PDT
by
f.Christian
(( Evolution is whatever lie you want it to be. ))
To: new cruelty
Polanski, who now lives in France, couldn't retrieve his Oscar. Setting foot on U.S. soil would mean his immediate arrest.Is under-age sex/rape not a crime in France? Or do we not have an extradition treaty with the cheese-eating surrender monkeys?
To: new cruelty
This explains why the Left isn't morally outraged about Scott Ritter...or any other abomination for that matter. Bottom line: the vast majority of them are just soulless sacs of protoplasm.
No offense to protoplasm intended.
-Jay
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:07:56 PM PDT
by
Jay D. Dyson
(Terrorists of the world, RISE UP! [So I may more easily gun you down.])
To: new cruelty
"Then I read the grand jury testimony of Polanski's victim, Samantha Geimer, on www.thesmokinggun.com. In it, she said Polanski, then 43, first asked to take pictures of her for French Vogue. Transporting her to Jack Nicholson's home, he photographed her nude, gave her champagne and part of a quaalude, and performed "cuddliness" -- her childish term for oral sex -- on her before raping her. "
The failure here, is no one has taught this child anything about personal values and integrity.
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:08:50 PM PDT
by
Search4Truth
(When a man lies, he murders part of the world.)
To: NativeNewYorker
Is under-age sex/rape not a crime in France? Or do we not have an extradition treaty with the cheese-eating surrender monkeys? I thought we had an extradition treaty with France...
...then again, I was also once told they were our allies.
Things change, I guess.
-Jay
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:09:07 PM PDT
by
Jay D. Dyson
(Terrorists of the world, RISE UP! [So I may more easily gun you down.])
To: new cruelty
Polanski repeatedly referred to his victim as a "Lolita", and whined interminably about how unjust it would be for him to spend more than the three months he had to stay confined, after his arrest... A real nice guy; a Hollywood type of guy.
To: Jay D. Dyson
I thought we had an extradition treaty with France... We don't.
To: Search4Truth
The failure here, is no one has taught this child anything about personal values and integrity. It wasn't her fault. It was all his fault.
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:17:14 PM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: rs79bm
"Better put some ice on that..."
To: new cruelty
Yuk. What a creep. May he stay in France.
To: new cruelty
Hollywood is leftist.
Leftism rejects traditional morals and believes in a ruling elite that is exempt from laws and mores governing ordinary people like you and me.
Therefore, Hollywood has no problem excusing the rape of a child by one of their own "elite."
It's just as simple as that.
To: new cruelty
And they booed Elia Kazan in 1999 because 40 years earlier he dared to stand up to the Hollywood lefties.
To: new cruelty
I think the problem here is that people hear that Polanski "molested" or "raped" a 13 year-old and they think "It was statutory rape but probably consentual." No. Polanski forcibly raped the girl after getting her drunk and drugged and refused to stop when she asked him to. He also sodomized her. This isn't a Rob Lowe "I didn't know" type situation or a "she threw herself at me" situation. This is a grown man forcibly raping a 13 year-old girl against her will. That is what people need to know instead of the various ephemisms that often get tossed out when Polanski's case is discussed.
To: new cruelty
Because his crime was "just sex," an act that nearly everyone enjoys and that -- unless weapons, bruises and/or a nun are involved -- many people have trouble envisioning as criminal. That is an excellent point! But there is another, which should not be diminished. I doubt very much that, under similar circumstances, the Amer. Assoc. of Electrical Engineers, or Amer. Physics Society would even consider an award, no matter how deep the papers are. In most professions, from dentistry to science to be "professional" is an integral part. To be free from crime is a minimal requierment of being professional.
Thus, it is also the exceptional position into which we place Hollywood and other celebrities that explains the outcome. No matter how power-hungry, manipulative, and vulgar Madonna is, people --- most of whom where not teenagers --- ran to shell out $150 for a pornographic book. It does not matter that Sean Penn cannot even speak, we allow him to speak and be heard. Jack Nicholson said during the Clinton affair referring to him, "I trust the guy, because he f---s. I never trust a guy unless he f---s." It is hard to find a gutter with a higher lever stupidy, besides immorality. But his quotes get into the press all the times --- because we read them, no matter how empty they are.
So why would the Polansky case be any different?
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:48:44 PM PDT
by
TopQuark
To: new cruelty
"Everyone knows that Academy Awards are given to artists for turning in the year's best work -- and for their popularity, lengthy career achievement and past nominations."
What needs to be added is that the academy award votes are ONLY by members of the screen actors guild. Not determined by the public nor in lots of cases by popularity. Only those that the studios, actors and other interested parties can lobby or pay to get their votes within the SAG. It's an inhouse thing yet these same people expect the public to bow, scrape, sigh, favor and watch their farce of presentations.
Roman Polanski took the 13 year old to Jack Nicholson's house. Did Nicholson participate? Wonder how Nicholson would feel if it happened to his child because ole Jacky has children now? Polanski is pedophile. If he ever returns, he should be arrested, sent to prison and the key to his release thrown away since he's escaped justice all these years.
To: colorado tanker
"And they booed Elia Kazan..."Yes! Kazan abandoned the left and named names. And therein lies the critical difference. If you stay on the left and turn state's evidence against a conservative, you're ok in Hollywood. (see post 15)
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