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Liberal Methodist Leaders Call Bush to Repentance
AgapePress ^ | April 17, 2003 | Jody Brown and Bill Fancher

Posted on 04/17/2003 2:30:22 PM PDT by Willie Green

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To: Dog Gone
Nope, Manhattan. Even more remarkable.
161 posted on 04/17/2003 7:53:29 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Matchett-PI
See post 153.

Whoever acknowledges the son has the father also.

Looks to me as if they acknowledge the son.

I believe you might be the one to reconsider.
I'll end it at that. As it says..3 times.
162 posted on 04/17/2003 8:23:14 PM PDT by crz
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To: MEG33
My relatives are turning over in their graves. This is not the Methodist Church of old.

As are mine.

163 posted on 04/17/2003 8:29:00 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: kb2614
There is a reason why people are leaving the UMC and other mainline churches in droves.

Yes, I would actually call them non-believing churches rather than mainline. I was raised Methodist and finally got tired of arguing with the pastor at the church that I left 1 1/2 years ago. He was trying to convince people to NOT believe the Bible. Just believe the liberal line that he espouses...

164 posted on 04/17/2003 8:35:00 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Dog Gone
Some of the independent, Spirit-filled churches are well to the right. You might label us as holy rollers , but there is some sanity among us. Did not Jesus say that he would put the sheep on his right hand and the goats on his left? Many of us who are "born again" have moved well to the right. In recent days, those words of Jesus are speaking louder and louder, as I watch the left losing their minds.
165 posted on 04/17/2003 8:39:40 PM PDT by man of Yosemite ("When a man decides to do something everyday, that's about when he stops doing it.")
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To: crz
Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is Heavenly Father’s Only Begotten Son in the flesh.

That's very nice but it is not what the Book of Mormon teaches. Have you studied their beliefs? Lucifer was the brother of Jesus...Jesus had the better plan for occupying earth...Mormons will all be gods...some will be here on earth and some in heaven. The rest of us won't make it...too bad..too sad...

Mormons hate it when major flaws are found. Mormons excommunicate people who beleive in multiple marriages (God must've joking when he gave Joseph Smith the right to do the same)...Mormon's didn't like black people for years (read your book).......

If the Mormon's could just get rid of their beginnings and their teachings, the Christian world would see them as brethren. They do wonderful work....and most are great people.

166 posted on 04/17/2003 8:42:38 PM PDT by Krodg (We have the ability because the leader in command knows who's in control....God Bless America.)
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To: Dog Gone
Anyone know a good rightwing church? I'm getting pretty tired of hearing from all the hypocritical, commie-loving, Bush-bashing ones.

There are a few out there, you have to search for them, I found one, it took several years.

Two weeks ago the sermon started with:

If you expect this to be politically correct, you better leave now, because it AIN'T gonna happen. A few minutes later it turned to the need for the private ownership of firearms, and the lies the gun grabbers will be using in their attempt to disarm the country. It ended with the call to pray for the President, and the Military.

167 posted on 04/17/2003 8:46:32 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: crz
Whoever acknowledges the son has the father also.

Does this mean (according to the Mormon church) when I see Satan, I see God???

168 posted on 04/17/2003 8:48:36 PM PDT by Krodg (We have the ability because the leader in command knows who's in control....God Bless America.)
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To: Krodg
You guys must really have a problem with the Jews then hey? Or the Roman Catholic Church.


169 posted on 04/17/2003 9:17:35 PM PDT by crz
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To: bmwcyle
You have your Churches and then you have your social clubs.
170 posted on 04/17/2003 9:18:46 PM PDT by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: aruanan
LOL! I live in VERY conservative part of Missouri (the one democrat elected from this are is both pro-life and pro-second ammendment) and I have a friend who is a Methodist minister. I think that I, as an Anglican (that's Episcopalian to those of you with limited theology background) am one of the few people who gives him comfort in the fact that being a conservative Anglican/Episcopalian in the United States is one of the few things rarer than being a truly conservative Methodist! :-)
171 posted on 04/17/2003 9:19:45 PM PDT by ahadams2
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To: crz
You guys must really have a problem with the Jews then hey? Or the Roman Catholic Church.

I was talking about the Mormon's believing that Jesus and Satan were were brothers.....where did you get that I had a problem with Jews??? You couldn't be further from the truth on that statement! I also don't recall saying anything about the Catholice church.....what's your problem?

172 posted on 04/17/2003 9:29:58 PM PDT by Krodg (We have the ability because the leader in command knows who's in control....God Bless America.)
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To: crz
"You guys must really have a problem with the ..." ~ crz

The subject has changed to us having a problem with something??

Getting back to the subject:

You wrote: "Whoever acknowledges the son has the father also. Looks to me as if they acknowledge the son."

So I can believe that Jesus is the created spirit brother of Lucifer, and as long as I acknowledge him as "the son", I have the father also?

Neato! Hahahaha
173 posted on 04/17/2003 9:31:24 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Marxist DemocRATS, Nader-Greens, and Militant Islam are a clear and present danger to our Freedoms.)
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To: eleni121
....there are cells of left wing self styled Christians in most major denominations.

Yes, the Presbyterians have the same problem. There are cells of left-wing church members who attend and monitor the Presbyterian Church (USA) national assembly and also local assemblies, insisting that left-wing issues be promoted, protesting and wearing down the delegates until a certain percentage give in and accede to their agenda.

174 posted on 04/17/2003 10:05:33 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Matchett-PI
This is the last time I will post to the likes of you. As I originally said. I am not a member of the LDS church. And I certainly will never ever expose myself to the hate and filth you and your partner are exposing on this thread.

I have done quite a lot of research on this subject and have come to this conclussion. You seem to be of those who make their business of beating down people that do not agree with you in total. So now. Because you want to sell books by those who make their living by claiming to expose cults, then sell them to someone else. Matter of fact. I did a search on what Billy Graham had to say about the Mormon Church and to my shock, I found hundreds of sites slandering Billy Graham as well as the LDS. BTW. When Ol Billy or Franklin (his son) is preaching and I manage to get to watch them, I pay attention, because he is the patriarch of America, IMO.
175 posted on 04/17/2003 10:15:01 PM PDT by crz
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To: aruanan
These same people stood quietly by while BJC cavorted in the White House.
176 posted on 04/18/2003 5:47:59 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (MrConfettiman was in the streets while I was still yelling at the TV)
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To: Wondervixen
Liberals get is wrong so often that you wonder if they live on the same planet.
177 posted on 04/18/2003 5:51:23 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Semper Gumby - Always flexible)
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
It is tuff even in my own church. It is time the liberals read more of their Bible and stopped just feeling.
178 posted on 04/18/2003 6:23:45 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Semper Gumby - Always flexible)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
These same people stood quietly by while BJC cavorted in the White House.

AND they helped to facilitate the return of Elian to captivity.
179 posted on 04/18/2003 6:28:57 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
I grew up in the UMC, but my family left it in the late 70's because it was getting bad then. I go to a Baptist church now. No church is perfect. But if a church does not believe that the Bible is the word of God and that Jesus is the Son of God, then it's time to find a church that does. Mainline churches are in trouble and its there own fault. What's the point of watering down the Christain message so it conforms to the ways of the world. I might as well stay home.
180 posted on 04/18/2003 6:32:31 AM PDT by kb2614 (".....We've done nothing and were all out of ideas!!")
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