[caisson71]

"The war was lost in VietNam.." Horseshit!!!! We quit!!

[familyofman]

The war was lost in VietNam.." Horseshit!!!! We quit!!

While ahead or behind. From my old neighborhood - if you cried uncle or quit, you were the loser of the scrape. How do you define losing? I sure wouldn't call it a victory or draw - we left without gaining our objectives, while leaving behind 50,000+ dead.