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Teaching Kindergarten Kids About 'Human Differences' and Homosexuality Isn't 'Easy' in Newton
Massachusetts News ^ | April 17, 2003 | MassNews Staff

Posted on 04/17/2003 10:32:53 AM PDT by Remedy

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To: iconoclast
Sorry.
http://www.k12.com
This is a homeschooling site started by Bill Bennett. It is considered a charter school and becomes Ohio Virtual Elementary for those who live in Ohio.
I live in Michigan but Jonathansmommie lives in Ohio. She can have her son attend for free while I would have to pay for it for my girls.
61 posted on 04/17/2003 2:14:31 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004- pray & fast for our troops this lent)
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To: Remedy
Is Newton represented by........Barney Frank by chance?
62 posted on 04/17/2003 2:18:05 PM PDT by ninonitti
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To: Ga Rob
If you are a racist, homophobe, bigot, what are these folk:

Thomas Jefferson on Sodomy Sect. XIV. Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy* with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least. Peterson, Merrill D. "Crimes and Punishments" Thomas Jefferson: Writings Public Papers (Literary Classics of the United States, Inc. 1984) pp. 355, 356.

BURGER, C.J., Concurring Opinion Decisions of individuals relating to homosexual conduct have been subject to state intervention throughout the history of Western civilization. Condemnation of those practices is firmly rooted in Judeo-Christian moral and ethical standards. Homosexual sodomy was a capital crime under Roman law…. During the English Reformation, when powers of the ecclesiastical courts were transferred to the King's Courts, the first English statute criminalizing sodomy was passed…. Blackstone described "the infamous crime against nature" as an offense of "deeper malignity" than rape, a heinous act "the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature," and "a crime not fit to be named." W. Blackstone, Commentaries . The common law of England, including its prohibition of sodomy, became the received law of Georgia and the other Colonies. In 1816, the Georgia Legislature passed the statute at issue here, and that statute has been continuously in force in one form or another since that time. To hold that the act of homosexual sodomy is somehow protected as a fundamental right would be to cast aside millennia of moral teaching.

Hundreds rally for '10 Commandments judge' The effort is in response to the Alabama high court's unanimous decision to reject a lesbian mother's child custody petition. Moore wrote a separate concurring opinion, repudiating homosexuality on religious grounds, calling it "abhorrent, immoral, detestable, a crime against nature, and a violation of the laws of nature and of nature's God."

63 posted on 04/17/2003 2:20:40 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Adder
Don't know if you have seen these:

More than a dozen briefs filed at the United States Supreme Court this week oppose the declaration of a new constitutional right in Lawrence v. Texas.


Alabama, South Carolina, and Utah
(State Attorneys General)

American Center for Law and Justice
Jay Alan Sekulow, Counsel of Record

American Family Association
Stephen M. Crampton, Counsel of Record

Center for Arizona Policy
This brief refutes the errors expressed in the opposing amicus submitted by the American Psychology Association.
Len L. Munsil, Counsel of Record

Center for Law and Justice International
Pat Monaghan, Counsel of Record

Center for the Original Intent of the Constitution
Michael P. Farris, Counsel of Record

Concerned Women for America
Janet M. LaRue, Counsel of Record

Family Research Council & Focus on the Family
Robert P. George, Counsel of Record

Legislators, State of Texas
Kelly Shackelford, Counsel of Record

Liberty Counsel
Mathew D. Staver, Counsel of Record

Pro Family Law Center
Richard Ackerman, Counsel of Record

Texas Eagle Forum; Daughters of Liberty Republican Women of Houston, Texas;
Spirit of Freedom Republican Women's Club

Teresa Stanton Collett, Counsel for Amici Curiae

Texas Physicians Resource Council, Christian Medical and Dental Association, Catholic Medical Association
Glen Lavy, Counsel of Record

United Families International
Paul Benjamin Linton, Counsel for the Amicus

64 posted on 04/17/2003 2:29:00 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
It's everywhere and insidious.
65 posted on 04/17/2003 2:30:20 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Remedy
It hasn't been easy teaching children about homosexuality in the Newton schools because many parents are not happy with the plan

They are not happy? Give parents Prozak and Ritalin for the kids!

66 posted on 04/17/2003 2:30:40 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Remedy
Her session at Fistgate 2003 was about introducing six-year-olds to homosexual concepts.

Yes, you need to start early if you want to hook them up.

67 posted on 04/17/2003 2:31:57 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: ninonitti

Is Newton represented by........Barney Frank by chance?

Newton is representing Barney Frank. I don’t know which perverted area Frank represents.

68 posted on 04/17/2003 2:33:51 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
There are always parents whose religion actually says that it [homosexuality] is a sin

Wow, really? So in Newton there are other religions than Unitarians and Reformed?

69 posted on 04/17/2003 2:34:05 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Remedy
or golf spikes
70 posted on 04/17/2003 2:39:21 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: madg
GLSEN holds an annual conference. You pay to attend. From a LEGAL perspective it is a private event. That has nothing to do with whether or not they have “access to underage children” or anything else. If you want to know what goes on at their conference then do what I did: Buy a ticket and attend.

Do you support teaching small children to "eat or wallow in" feces? Are you a homosexual?

71 posted on 04/17/2003 2:40:09 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: madg
Are you suggesting that a stenographer attended the workshop?

Some reporters know stenography.

72 posted on 04/17/2003 2:42:07 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: madg
Oh, I'll tell you what - just pick one. Unless you'd prefer to persist in being disingenuous. Either way, it's information...
73 posted on 04/17/2003 3:20:13 PM PDT by Noumenon (Don't immanentize the eschaton!)
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To: madg; EdReform; scripter; Remedy
This is so pathetic it is getting dangerously close to annoying.

You can stop trying to deny what was said. This same crap was being shoveled last year and nobody could dispute its content because it was recorded, and despite all the pissing and whining nothing was done about it because nothing could be done about it.

The fact is, it does not matter how this information is being attained. You know homosexuality is being taught in elementary schools (as seen in post #46). That may be well, good, and perfectly acceptable to you, it is not to every responsible parent.

We have all been shown by example just exactly what homosexuals have in mind for our kids, and our response should be clear:

They should stay the forking hell away from our children. Period. No if's. No and's. No but's. No grey areas. No middle ground. No discussion. No debate.

76 posted on 04/17/2003 3:52:06 PM PDT by Houmatt (Where is Scott Speicher?)
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To: Remedy
Teaching little buggers how to bugger is one way to shorten our culture's ridiculously long childhood, but I think they are lopping off the wrong end.
77 posted on 04/17/2003 4:48:36 PM PDT by gcruse (The F word, N word, C word: We're well on our way to spelling 'France.')
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To: madg; EdReform; scripter; Remedy; Eaker
I have never "denied what was said."

And yet, most of your posts in this thread challenge the credibility of MassNews and how they got this information, strongly implying they made it all up.

Allow me to quote the American Heritage Dictionary:

denial SYLLABICATION: de·ni·al PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: d-nl KEY NOUN: 1. A refusal to comply with or satisfy a request. 2a. A refusal to grant the truth of a statement or allegation; a contradiction. b. Law The opposing by a defendant of an allegation of the plaintiff. 3a. A refusal to accept or believe something, such as a doctrine or belief. b. Psychology An unconscious defense mechanism characterized by refusal to acknowledge painful realities, thoughts, or feelings. 4. The act of disowning or disavowing; repudiation. 5. Abstinence; self-denial.

Sound familiar?

"Post #46" was just one of the propaganda ponies galloping through.

No, it was excerpts from two reviews of a book written by two people who are obviously interested in advancing the homosexual agenda in the public school arena. Your assertion is as bogus as calling Larry Kramer's direct quote condoning pedophilia propoganda simply because I mentioned it.

If elementary schools "teach" that gays actually EXIST and that they are just as deserving of human rights and respect, then I have no problem with that.

You know, it is really not a good idea to play ignorant. Not here. Not if you want to be intellectually kicked around like a soccer ball at the World Cup.

The debate is in your interpretation of events. It is a fact that you have opinions... but that does not make your opinions fact.

You know, when I read things like this, you attempting to blur what is absolute and obvious, I cannot help but wonder if you are a troll or actually sincere about the things you say.

But then again, it was not all that long ago you actually tried to defend the North American Man-Boy Love Association in public, so perhaps the latter is true.

Keep digging that hole. The farther down you get, the less happy you will be with what you see.

80 posted on 04/17/2003 6:00:14 PM PDT by Houmatt (Where is Scott Speicher?)
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