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U.S. Bombs Iranian Guerrilla Forces Based in Iraq
New York Times ^ | April 17, 2002 | DOUGLAS JEHL

Posted on 04/17/2003 6:06:40 AM PDT by ZULU

U.S. Bombs Iranian Guerrilla Forces Based in Iraq By DOUGLAS JEHL

ASHINGTON, April 16 — American forces have bombed the bases of the main armed Iranian opposition group in Iraq, a guerrilla organization that maintained thousands of fighters with tanks and artillery along Iraq's border with Iran for more than a decade.

The group, the Mujahedeen Khalq, has been labeled a terrorist organization by the United States since 1997, and Bush administration officials said the group had supported Saddam Hussein's military. Still, the biggest beneficiary of the strikes will be the Iranian government, which has lost scores of soldiers in recent years to cross-border attacks by the guerrillas seeking to overthrow Iran's Islamic government.

Defense department officials who described the air attacks, which have received scant public attention, said they had been followed in recent days by efforts by American ground forces to pursue and detain members of the group and its National Liberation Army. Some members of the group were expected to surrender soon, the officials said today.

A senior American military officer said the United States had "bombed the heck" out of at least two of the Mujahedeen group's bases, including its military headquarters at Camp Ashraf, about 60 miles north of Baghdad.

The only public acknowledgment of the attacks came on Tuesday, when Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, met with foreign reporters. In answer to a question, General Myers acknowledged bombing some camps, and said that American forces were "still pursuing elements" of the group inside Iraq.

"We're still interested in that particular group," he said. "How that will affect U.S.-Iranian relationships, I think we're going to have to wait until more time goes by."

The attacks could well anger the more than 150 members of Congress from both parties who have described the Iranian opposition group as an effective source of pressure against Iran's government. In a statement last November, the group urged the Bush administration to remove the organization from its terrorist list.

"We made it very clear that these folks are pro-democracy, antifundamentalism, antiterrorism, helpful to the U.S. in providing information about the activities of the Iranian regime, and advocates of a secular government in Iran," said Yleem Poblete, staff director for the House International Relations Committee's subcommittee on the Middle East and Asia.

"They are our friends, not our enemies," she said. "The fact that they are the main target of the Iranian regime says a lot about their effectiveness."

It was not clear today whether the attacks were intended in any way as a thank-you gesture by the United States for Iran's policy of noninterference in the war in Iraq.

At the White House and elsewhere, senior administration officials said today that the group had been bombed because its forces served as an extension of the Iraqi military and as a de facto security force for the old Iraqi government.

"These forces were fully integrated with Saddam Hussein's command and controls and therefore constituted legitimate military targets that posed a threat to coalition forces," a White House official said. A second administration official said that the attacks had not been intended as a gesture to the Iranian government, calling the camps "a logical and rational military target."

Still, the Bush administration has expressed relief at what it has generally described as Iran's path of noninterference in the American war in Iraq. American officials are believed to have met secretly with Iranian officials in the months before the war to urge Iran's government to maintain its neutrality.

In a telephone interview from Paris, Mohammad Mohaddessin, a top official of an Iranian opposition coalition that includes the Mujahedeen, confirmed that the bases had been attacked by the United States in what he called "an astonishing and regrettable act."

"It is a clear kowtowing to the demands of the Iranian regime," said Mr. Mohaddessin.

U.S. Bombs Iranian Guerrilla Forces Based in Iraq (Page 2 of 2)

Last August, a senior Iranian official, Mohsen Rezai, a former commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, was quoted by the official Iranian news service as urging American attacks on the group's bases.

"If the Americans spare the Mujahedeen's bases in Iraq during their general attacks on Iraq, then it shows a clear bias in their approach to terrorism," Mr. Rezai was quoted as saying. "On the other hand, if the Americans attack the Mujahedeen bases, this would in turn be considered a goodwill gesture toward us."

In a 1996 visit to one of the group's bases, a reporter saw evidence of a formidable force with an arsenal that included American-made armored personnel carriers and Chieftain tanks from Britain, secured from raids deep inside Iran in 1988.

In addition to Camp Ashraf, the group has two other bases in the general vicinity of Baghdad: Camp Alavi, near the city of Miqdadiyah, about 65 miles northeast of Baghdad; and Camp Anzali, near the city of Jalula, about 80 miles northeast of Baghdad, and about 20 miles from the Iranian border. At least one of those bases was also hit in the American strikes, officials of the group said.

Recent estimates by the United States government have put the Mujahedeen Khalq at "several thousand fighters," nearly all of them based in Iraq.

Mr. Mohaddessin, the opposition official, said the group had abandoned four bases in southern Iraq before the American attack began, to demonstrate that it did not intend to interfere with American military operations. He said the group had been assured by "proper U.S. authorities" that its other camps would not be targets.

Mr. Mohaddessin declined to provide detailed information about the timing and extent of the American attacks, but he said there had been repeated air strikes. In recent days, he said, they had been followed by cross-border attacks on the group's fighters inside Iraq by Iranian forces, in which he said at least 28 of the organization's guerrillas had been killed.

Mr. Mohaddessin said hundreds of Iranian soldiers were now operating in Iraq, but offered no evidence to corroborate that claim.

The Mujahedeen Khalq was formed in the 1960's and expelled from Iran after the Islamic Revolution in 1979. In its most recent annual listing of terrorist groups, the State Department said of the group that "its history is studded with anti-Western attacks as well as terrorist attacks on the interests of the clerical regime in Iran and abroad." During the 1970's, the report noted, the group killed several American military personnel and civilians working in Iran.

The decision by the Clinton administration to add the group to its list of terrorist organizations in 1997 was widely interpreted as a goodwill gesture to the Iranian government.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bases; bombs; campalavi; campanzali; campashraf; iran; iraq; iraqifreedom; mujahedeen; terrorism
Having once taken over Iraq, one would suppose the U.S. would attempt to employ its new position of power to try and leverage out of power the government of the Ayatollahs in Iran. One would suppose that would include at least NOT ATTACKING its enemies.

Alas, apparently this is not the case. Apparently, once again, the U.S. State Department is formulating pie-in-sky policy, based on the mistaken belief that gratitude can be anticipated from vipers.

After perusing the above, just mosy over to http://www.tehrantimes.com to see just how "grateful" the Ayatollahs are towards to the U.S. as a result of this latest, idiotic adventure of ours.

Great job, Colin Powell!! This even beats your act at the U.N. Security Council, actually expecting the Frogs, Krauts and Russkis to back us, or your phenomenally successfull junket to southeast Asai where you were laughed off the continent by the anti-American vipers over there.

1 posted on 04/17/2003 6:06:40 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU
I don't for a minute believe that Hussein would have tolerated any "pro-democracy" fighters on his soil, nor do I believe that a group named the Mujahedeen Khalq is a "secularist" group.

Most likely they were Ba'athists who were trying to replace the totalitarian government of Iran with their own totalitarian regime.

If they were simply good-hearted advocates of freedom, why would they fight alongside their Ba'athist hosts?

Be a little more critical in your thinking.

2 posted on 04/17/2003 6:15:57 AM PDT by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: wideawake
According to Col. David Hunt (who has been on the mark during the war) on Fox News, two separate groups, one from Syria, one from Iran, have come into Iraq to instigate unrest among the population. The incident in Mosul was cited as having been started by these infiltrators, whose numbers are in the thousands.
3 posted on 04/17/2003 6:22:30 AM PDT by Use It Or Lose It (St. Michael, The Archangel, defend us in battle....")
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To: wideawake
"I don't for a minute believe that Hussein would have tolerated any "pro-democracy" fighters on his soil,.."

On the other hand, Saddam and the Iranians hated each other. Very often your enemy's enemy is your friend, regradless of other considerations.

"Most likely they were Ba'athists who were trying to replace the totalitarian government of Iran with their own totalitarian regime."

This is just an assumption on your part, we really don't know for sure.

"If they were simply good-hearted advocates of freedom, why would they fight alongside their Ba'athist hosts?"

You take help where you can get it in situations like this.

"Be a little more critical in your thinking."

I was a little hesitant, considering the source - the N.Y. Slimes. On the other hand, considering what our State Department appears to be engineering in Syria, and their known track record dealing with foreign policy issues from the wrong perspective, and Mr. Powell's proven incompetence, I may have jumped to a conclusion. On the other hand, if the Iranians were so "thankful" for what is obviously assistance on our part, why are they continuing with such venomous attacks?? Check out the articles in today's Tehran Times - business as usual against the "Great White Satin" there.



4 posted on 04/17/2003 6:24:01 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Use It Or Lose It
Was the Mosul incident connected with this action??
5 posted on 04/17/2003 6:25:50 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: wideawake
If this group of Iranian opposition fighters were opposed to the current Islamic theocracy in Iran and causing them big problems, then what good purpose can you possibly give for bombing them, especially in light of the fact that Saddam is now utterly defeated and crushed, and this band of Iranian brigands were posing no real threat to U.S. troops? I don't get it.
6 posted on 04/17/2003 6:27:36 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: ZULU
The current relationship between Iran and the US, created in 1979 by the imbecilic foreign policies of Jimmy Carter and the democrats, is contrary to what should be the natural interests of both countries. The real and historic threats to the sovereignty of the Iranian people are and will continue to be the Russians, the Chinese, and their Arab and Turkic/Afghan/Pakistani neighbors.

Based on that famous survey last year, the vast majority of Iranians understand this. Our task over the next few years will be to carefully coax Iran into a (hopefully but probably not) peaceful counter-revolution. If Bush has another five and a half and not just one and a half years in office, I believe we will see it happen.

7 posted on 04/17/2003 6:28:34 AM PDT by katana
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To: katana
I was hoping our occupation of IRaq would do just that.

Wiping out a potential source of supporters for such an overthrow would appear to be counterproductive towards those ends.

I agree with your assessment of Iran and its foreign relationships. Only an idiot like Carter or Clinton could have allowed the Shah to fall before a lunatic like Khomenei
8 posted on 04/17/2003 6:42:47 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU
Most people here who have no experience in that region (and that's 90% + of Americans) seem to find it hard to grasp how different the Arabs are from the Iranians, and I've had to work to be polite with otherwise reasonably well informed people when they refer to Iranians as "Arabs". Times change, but Persia remains the crown jewel and biggest prize in the continuing "Great Game".

We are going to be paying for everything that idiot peanut farmer did to our foreign policy long after he has fed a thousand generations of worms.

9 posted on 04/17/2003 6:58:51 AM PDT by katana
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To: katana
Crown jewel in the great game. Hip, Hip Hoorah! I guess the American Republic is completely dead and the tories won after all. Long live empire eh!
10 posted on 04/17/2003 7:01:50 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
By using a 19th century phrase for effect I did not intend to imply that we should establish a new empire, I was trying to draw attention to the fact that influence in South Asia has been contested by many powers, most of whom are our current of potential enemies, for a couple centuries.

IMHO it's a fact of life that what happens and who runs things in that region affects this country very deeply. Whatever you wish to call it, the United States has global economic interests which a global military must protect. We can try to influence a pivotal part of a pivotal region or we can allow the Russians, the Chinese, and the Europeans to handle things. If you want to call that "imperialism" so be it. I call it protecting one's national interests and security.

11 posted on 04/17/2003 7:20:16 AM PDT by katana
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To: ZULU
Was the Mosul incident connected with this action??

According to Col. Hunt, yes.

12 posted on 04/17/2003 7:20:31 AM PDT by Use It Or Lose It (St. Michael, The Archangel, defend us in battle....")
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To: katana
"Most people here who have no experience in that region (and that's 90% + of Americans) seem to find it hard to grasp how different the Arabs are from the Iranians,.."

Iranians speak an Indo-European Language, not a Semitic one, they have a culture going back thousands of years, they were the followers of the world's first ethical monotheistic religion - Zoroastrianism, which, most unfortunately has been superceded by Islam.


"We are going to be paying for everything that idiot peanut farmer did to our foreign policy long after he has fed a thousand generations of worms."

Funny you should say that. His equally idiotic brother
"Billy Beer" Carter had a gigantic worm ranch where he raised worms for fishing. It was maintained outside and consisted of a gigantic mountain full of worms and humus. He had huge spotlights on it at night to keep the worms from crawling away. One night the power went out and his idiot brother lost his shirt when most of the worms crawled away.

Perhaps Jimmy should have asked his daughter Amy for advice on how to handle Iran. She could hardly have done worse.
13 posted on 04/17/2003 7:25:27 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: TheCrusader
Could be quite a few good reasons.

Given the Islamicists tendency to kiss and make up whenever they get the opportunity to strike against the West, this strike could have its own rewards.

And if it really promotes Iraqi stability, that would seem to me to more than cancel out any percieved short-term benefit to Iran.

And when you think about past criticisms of US foreign policy, they often center around using freindly despots to overthrow unfreindly despots. This could represent a whole new strategy, long term. We don't need any help from scum like these mujahadeen, or the PLO, or France.

Then again, I may be way off. Just speculating on the positive spin.

14 posted on 04/17/2003 7:30:18 AM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: ZULU
03/28/2003

Rumsfeld Warns Syria, Iranian Badr Corps Not to Interfere in Iraq (Says Iraqis should memorize names, faces of "death squad" members) (950)

By Jacquelyn S. Porth Washington File Security Affairs Correspondent

Washington -- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld sent a warning March 28 to two of Iraq's neighbors -- Syria and Iran -- not to interfere in coalition efforts to topple Saddam Hussein's regime.

He told reporters at the Pentagon that military supplies, including night vision equipment, are being sent into Iraq from Syria and "we would like it to stop" because any such assistance could result in the loss of lives and the prolongation of conflict. He also warned the Iranian-sponsored Badr Corps not to interfere with coalition military operations inside Iraq lest its members be considered "as combatants."

"We have information that shipments of military supplies are crossing the border from Syria into Iraq, including night vision goggles," said Rumsfeld, who described the transfers as "trafficking." Such deliveries "pose a direct threat to the lives of coalition forces," he added.

The United States considers this kind of trafficking to be "hostile acts," Rumsfeld said, "and will hold the government of Syria accountable for such shipments." The movement of military materiel and equipment between Syria and Iraq "vastly complicates our situation," he added.

Asked more about the Badr Corps, Rumsfeld said there are reports of numbers in the hundreds operating in Iraq and more on the other side of the border. He described the corps as "the military wing of the Supreme Council on Islamic Revolution in Iraq" and said it is "trained, equipped and directed by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard." As yet, he said, the corps has not done anything that would be perceived by the coalition as hostile. But "the entrance into Iraq by military forces, intelligence personnel or proxies not under the direct operational control of [U.S. Central Command Commander] General [Tommy] Franks will be taken as a potential threat to coalition forces," he said.

Rumsfeld said the coalition would hold the Iranian government responsible for the corps' actions, and armed Badr corps members found in Iraq "will have to be treated as combatants."

[snip]

(The Washington File is a product of the Office of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State. Web site: http://usinfo.state.gov)

15 posted on 04/17/2003 7:37:49 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: ZULU; OldFriend; Coleus; Exit148
Do you remember NJ Senator Terrorcelli suddenly resigning in his campaign bid against Doug Forrester
?
Remember his documented involvement with the People's Mujahedeen of Iran(Khalq) based in Iraq?

Remember his constant petitions and lobbying of fellow senators to support his petition to take this terrorist org OFF the state terror list(indeed, year and year)?

Remember the local donations he'd received linked to this terror group?

TRAITOR!
16 posted on 04/17/2003 7:55:21 AM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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To: Sub-Driver; Ziva; Incorrigible; bioprof; Betteboop
BTTT
17 posted on 04/17/2003 8:06:54 AM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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To: ZULU
Very often your enemy's enemy is your friend, regradless of other considerations.

What if one of the 'other considerations' is that the group in question is on the US' list of terrorist organizations?

18 posted on 04/17/2003 9:04:32 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (http://c-pol.com)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
"We made it very clear that these folks are pro-democracy, antifundamentalism, antiterrorism, helpful to the U.S. in providing information about the activities of the Iranian regime, and advocates of a secular government in Iran," said Yleem Poblete, staff director for the House International Relations Committee's subcommittee on the Middle East and Asia.

"They are our friends, not our enemies," she said. "The fact that they are the main target of the Iranian regime says a lot about their effectiveness."

Who is Yleem Poblete and is she wrong??
19 posted on 04/17/2003 9:15:23 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU
Another point on your "Very often your enemy's enemy is your friend" comment:

Until this war began, the Mujahedeen Khalq was our enemy's friend -- they were in Iraq with Saddam's blessing, and he was their main benefactor.

Although the pro-MK bloc in Congress calls the organization pro-democracy, the group's ideology in truth appears to be a mixture of Islamism and Marxism (the combination of which was deemed unacceptable by the mullahs, thus ensuring the organization's exclusion from the government).

P.S. They supported the takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Teheran in 1979.

Resources supporting the terrorist organization designation:
Terrorism Q&A
TerrorismFiles.org
Terrorist Group Profiles

Then again, a website sponsored by the organization itself appears to indicate that they've softened a bit politically:
National Council of Resistance of Iran

Not sure what to think now. I do believe that there's more to this than meets the eye.

20 posted on 04/17/2003 10:01:24 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (http://c-pol.com)
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