Impact of Iraqi defeat on Islam

WorldNetDaily.Com ^ | Posted: April 17, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

[KC_Conspirator]

Even Israeli generals have conceded that the defeat of Iraq, one of the most powerful Muslim armies in the Middle East, by only three divisions in 22 days with only 100 casualties is amazing. Some Israeli generals say it surpasses their 1967 victory in the Six Day War.

That is absolutely amazing if you stop to think about it.

[SAJ]

As Moshe Dayan once remarked, on being praised for his success in the Yom Kippur and 7 Days' wars:

'I just did my duty. Of course, it helps if one can arrange to fight Arabs.'

[SAJ]

For '7', pls read '6'.

Sheesh, and apologies.

[Bobby777]

The American military was built to meet and defeat the Soviet machine ... it is the best-equipped and best-trained military on the planet ... Thank God ...

But the world will have to pick up the slack ... there are many forces loose in our world today and they're not just after America and Israel ... China has some real issues with the potential of nuclear war by India / Pakistan near their Western border and North Korea vs. South Korea / Japan on their Eastern border, for starters ...

[The Great Satan]

Isn't it about time these people gave it up and became Christians, like everyone else?

[Bobby777]

makes one wonder why they start so many wars ... the prophecy by God in Genesis regarding Ishmael and his descendents has certainly come true ...

[Bobby777]

some believe, that during the Tribulation, a great number of Arabs, far greater than today, may become believers in Christ ... because of the reconciliation between Jacob and Esau in Genesis 33, among other passages saying different things ...

[Straight Vermonter]

Maybe China should have considered that before it gave the bomb to Pakistan who in turn gave it to North Korea.

[Straight Vermonter]

Is it not incredible that with all of the oil wealth the middle east has, with all of the military hardware they have purchased, that they seem incapable of fielding a credible military?

I heard on the radio this mornign that the Russians are excited about the outcome of the war. They think countries all over the world that purchased Soviet equipment will now see that it is hopelessly outdated and buy up to date Russian equipment.

Once bitten, twice shy? Naaaah!

[azhenfud]

"We have to thoroughly demoralize the enemies of God by means of destroying and blowing up the towers that constitute the pillars of their civilization, such as the high buildings of which they are so proud."

And our brave troops couldn't fire on THEIR sacred(?) buildings, even in self defense. Proves the duplicity of which these morons exist.

[RWG]

We did not directly provoke the attacks on 9-11...bill clinton did through indiscriminate bombing of aspirin factories, leaving soldiers without equipment to die for nothing, and being more interested in a fat chick than bin laden.

[Dark Wing]

FYI

[fporretto]

We hold ourselves to a far higher standard than savages who see the killing of "infidels" as a religious duty. In some ways, it's an impossible standard. But it speaks well of the Untied States that we try.

I continue to maintain that Islam is not a religion, but a program of world conquest for totalitarian ends, tricked out in some theological decorations. Muslims' idea of the world is bipartite: the House of Islam (submission) versus the House of War. One guess which one we fall into.

The non-Islamic world will reluctantly accept this, given time. But it might take the Islamicization of a couple of European countries, complete with shari'a courts and executions for homosexuality or adultery, to bring the point all the way home.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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[Nick Danger]

Is it not incredible that with all of the oil wealth the middle east has, with all of the military hardware they have purchased, that they seem incapable of fielding a credible military?

It's the autocratic nature of their regimes. That's also what holds back their economies. Exactly the same thing happened in the Soviet Union.

The first thing autocrats want to do is control the flow of information. So they restrict things like the Internet, satellite dishes, even copiers and fax machines. That makes it hard to organize dissent, but it seriously impedes the flow of commerce.

The second thing they do is stomp the initiative out of people. There are some Mullahs in Kut who have just decided to take over the place and become little dictators. They published a bunch of rules on the wall of the mosque. One of the first rules was, "If something happens, don't do anything. Wait for guidance from the mullahs." There is autocracy in a nutshell.

You end up with a military, an economy, in fact an entire society where nobody thinks they can do anything without permission, but where the lines of communication with the permission-granters are severely restricted. It's a recipe for stagnation, ineffectiveness, and an inability to exploit opportunity. Such a thing will always lose in any struggle against a free society where initiative is rewarded and where information flows are fast, redundant, and two-way.

Any Arabs who think that the Message of Iraq is that "they need a bigger dictator with a bigger army" are totally missing it.

[Schnucki]

Their "macho"-type pride and their hatred of Israel and the West seems to overrule even common wisdom that would be in their own best interest.

I think this is called "cognitive dissonance."

[wayoverontheright]

There is no way for the Western mind to understand the depths of anguish and humiliation Muslims feel because of Western defeats of their armies.

Victor Davis Hanson talks about the role humiliation has played throughout history in ending conflict in general and terrorism in particular. Don't be surprised if we turn around years from now and realize that terror was indeed eradicated by the combination of humiliation and the end to American weakness in its response to 9-11.

[roses of sharon]

Exactly.

And their "intellectuals", media, Dr.s, Professors, continue to spew this doctrine to the Arab street. All the while stating to Western media, that, "the Arab street has bad preceptions because of US foreign policy". Nonsense.

The people are being lied to and brainwashed everyday, and for the last zillion years!

It is blackmail, pure and simple. They threaten us with the "Arab Street", along with suicide bombings, which are instigated by the Arab leaders, media, and "intellectuals".

Queen Noor is on a book tour now, doing exactly that, with the flowery language of peace. She claims her husband was crushed with every death in war, (of course she never speaks of the holy war that the Arab's have waged against Israel since it's inception).

And she is never asked the hard questions about her husbands decisions on the Palestinians.

Altho she did let slip that democracy is impossible with Arabs, and of couse added, "OUR people have different ways of doing things, you know, consensus building".

She speaks as a QUEEN, for the late KING, and claims to speak for the little people she RULES.

[JasonC]

Yes it is. But a quibble with the article. We had a little over 100 KIA, but the term "casualties" includes wounded. We had about 400 WIA. The Brits had some too. The overall casualties were probably 600-750. That is remarkable enough, there is no reason to whittle it down to 100.