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Behind The Neo-Prohibition Campaign
The Center for Consumer Freedom ^
| April 17, 2003
| Dan Mindus
Posted on 04/17/2003 1:03:26 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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Even as the tobacco companies were targeted, and now as "fat" is being targeted, an attempt to criminalize the use of alcohol is underway.
To: WaterDragon
Self-ping for later reading.
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posted on
04/17/2003 4:43:01 AM PDT
by
fporretto
(Curmudgeon Emeritus, Palace of Reason)
To: WaterDragon; jmc813; *Wod_list
Worth a WOD bump.
Another front in the WOD, harking back to the golden age of Prohibition (1920-1933), coming soon to a tavern near you, courtesy of the harpies at MADD.
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posted on
04/17/2003 7:39:24 AM PDT
by
bassmaner
(Let's take back the word "liberal" from the commies!!)
To: bassmaner
Why do people think that they can control me?
OTOH, why do we allow ourselves to be controlled?
Bah! I can't get high, let me get drunk at least.
DISCLAIMER: For the record, I have never used drugs and do not drink.
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posted on
04/17/2003 7:49:40 AM PDT
by
B. Rabbit
(Can I get a witness?)
To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
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posted on
04/17/2003 7:50:44 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The average citizen in Baghdad,right now, has more firearm rights than anyone in our country.)
To: cinFLA
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation Ping
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posted on
04/17/2003 7:51:11 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The average citizen in Baghdad,right now, has more firearm rights than anyone in our country.)
To: jmc813
Libertarian Party defends Joycelyn Elders' call to study drug legalization
"Elders is joining a long list of intelligent, reputable Americans who advocate examining drug legalization," noted Dasbach. "Baltimore Mayor Kurt Schmoke, conservative commentator William F. Buckley, former Secretary of State George Schultz, and Nobel Prize winner Milton Friedman are a few of the others. This is no longer a radical idea. It's an idea whose time is coming."
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posted on
04/17/2003 7:52:27 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: jmc813
Let me see if I have this straight....
Presently you hate the (perceived) focus of prosecuting drug users BUT
you are anti RWJF which is shifting focus to the suppliers!
Huh?
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posted on
04/17/2003 7:54:53 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: WaterDragon
Even as the tobacco companies were targeted, and now as "fat" is being targeted, an attempt to criminalize the use of alcohol is underway. Perhaps you should read again. It says they are shifting focus to the suppliers, not the users. Isn't this what the druggies want? Decriminalization of the use of drugs?
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posted on
04/17/2003 7:56:42 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: WaterDragon
...it is an article of faith that diminishing per capita consumption across the board can contain the social consequences... Hey, works for the Drug War, why not booze?
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posted on
04/17/2003 8:00:54 AM PDT
by
Wolfie
To: Wolfie
Yeah, but the drug war doesn't work either...
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posted on
04/17/2003 8:04:13 AM PDT
by
Amalie
(FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
To: Amalie
That's the leftist/WOD mantra: "Let's have more of what hasn't worked."
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posted on
04/17/2003 8:07:12 AM PDT
by
MrLeRoy
("That government is best which governs least.")
To: cinFLA
Presently you hate the (perceived) focus of prosecuting drug users BUT you are anti RWJF which is shifting focus to the suppliers!
Who was prosecuting alcohol users?
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posted on
04/17/2003 8:08:26 AM PDT
by
MrLeRoy
("That government is best which governs least.")
To: WaterDragon
Even as the tobacco companies were targeted, and now as "fat" is being targeted, an attempt to criminalize the use of alcohol is underway.It would serve "conservative" pro-WOD drinkers right to have their drug of choice banned, and then as they try to undo the ban to be told, "The same logic that supports relegalization of alcohol supports relegalization of drugs; you don't want that, do you?"
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posted on
04/17/2003 8:11:58 AM PDT
by
MrLeRoy
("That government is best which governs least.")
To: WaterDragon
Anybody got an explanation for the RWJ Foundation's zeal in this cause?
To: MrLeRoy
We are talking logic. Something beyond your scope.
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posted on
04/17/2003 8:14:14 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: WaterDragon
RWJF sees this as a "health care" issue, and therefore fair game for government control as a means of controlling health care costs. They see gun ownership, "urban sprawl", and mandatory public school education in gay and lesbian "lifestyle" issues the same way.
They advocate "single payer" healthcare, under centralized governemnt control guided by healtcare industry interest groups (them). Their idea of what constitutes "health care" is about as malleable as what Congress considers "commerce".
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posted on
04/17/2003 8:14:48 AM PDT
by
tacticalogic
(Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
To: cinFLA
We are talking logic. When did that start?
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posted on
04/17/2003 8:15:40 AM PDT
by
tacticalogic
(Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
To: tacticalogic
Zimmerman (on the medical marijuana scam)
"So, I'm going to take a position here and I know a lot of people will want to ask questions about this later, but the fastest way to get that we can get to where we're going is as fast as the American people are willing to go there with us. And, that if we try to get too far out ahead of people, we lose our connection to them and our relation to them and our credibility, and we make it more difficult to move them where we want to go, because that's the only way we're going to get to where we want to go. Thank you."
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posted on
04/17/2003 8:18:04 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: tacticalogic
But it's pretty hard to believe that draconian policies that discourage even moderate drinking would on balance save health costs.
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