***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - 17 APR 03/Day 29 - LIVE THREAD***

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Day 28

Good Morning.

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[DollyCali]

And that idiot author last night on H & C was spouting off how Bush is/was worse than Hussein....our Hitler.

I had a rare time of catching a little of it at a pizza shop after seeing a short movie (Ghosts of Abyss - 3D Titanic - semi documentary). We had prior gone to a restaurant of fine dining...... well, for me fine dining is "small portions".... I physically need more than that & in consideration of my date did not order 5 entres! Fine dining also is $$$$$ 30 up/entre

Thanks for post. Heard about a few things. It is hard to me to comprehend how ANYONE can be so hardened to conceieve yet alone do these things.. and not just an isolated, emotional situation. But regular horror.

[prairiebreeze]

the guy who would drag around the losing soccer plays in dirt and gravel and then throw them in raw sewage so their wounds would get infected.

Just when I think that I've read about every sort of atrocity that these monsters could possibly think up, somebody posts another one.

Good mooooorning Situation Room!! Thanks RC, for the Centcom recap.

Prairie

[retrokitten]

Good morning, Situation Room! Looks like a very slow morning and night.

Last Centcom briefing this morning? I'm sure BG Brooks is thrilled to not have to deal with those idiots anymore!

[Kip Lange]

Don't apologize for the length of the post, it should be read by everybody. I totally agree. When I talk sensitive topics like politics at work, it's always with somebody I know well, perhaps when we're out for a smoke break, something like that. Work is...work. You keep your personal life out of it as much as you can. And I have no problem with working with a well-meaning liberal as long as they're not shouting at me all the time -- and it would drive me NUTS to work with someone who even agreed with me on EVERYTHING and was hugely loud about it (probably even worse in that case, because he's giving my whole "cause" a bad name). Religion, politics, personal shtuff...has no place in workplace discussion, except if you want to quietly keep it to yourself. I worked with a Muslim who would very quietly leave at sunset to find an office facing Mecca to pray in -- never made a deal about it, I had, in fact, to snoop a little to find out what he was doing (I'm curious, sue me, and NO, he's not a terrorist :p). If we talked loudly about this kind of stuff at work, no work would ever get done, because we'd be fighting with each other all the time.

Now, if only actors could learn this, we could all stop pulling out our hair trying to figure out which movies we should boycott & subtract one bit of nonsense from the countless absurdities of the new normal.

[Kip Lange]

Just when I think that I've read about every sort of atrocity that these monsters could possibly think up, somebody posts another one.

That one is out of an article about him in Sports Illustrated from...sometime last month, I'll try to dig it up (or at least some quotes from it) for people.

[mewzilla]

If anyone's intersted, here's an excellent primer on the UN's Oil For Food program. And it's not what I'd call complimentary.

[aloysius89]

weapons caches like these

I think that it's a translation problem. We keep hearing reports of "hospitals" and "schools" but I think the words in the Iraqi language actually mean "ammo dump".

[Kip Lange]

Heh. Author could have stopped with the first half of the first line:

IT'S HUGE, OPAQUE, PERVERSE

[mewzilla]

Here's another article on Oil For Food. The title's Kofi Annandersen. Fitting.

[BagCamAddict]

LOL... you have a point. LOL

Tomayto / Tomahto
School / Ammo Dump

[mewzilla]

Boy, I hope someone investigates this. The amount of money involved is incredible. No wonder the UN was having a cow.

[Kip Lange]

THis forum/thread has been stimulating & encouraging to keep in touch & know I am not alone swimming in the oceans & ebb tide of life

If you don't already know about "ping lists" yet, that's a great way to keep up with the threads and folks you find of the greatest interest...

[najida]

Good morning everyone!
(Do some of you ever sleep??)

It is nice to get up to a thread with so much information.

Thanks guys.

[aloysius89]

I'm only a semi-lurker, although I've only really been posting since the war began. It is a great pleasure however to be able to say hello to the personalities at FR. It's like watching a conversation between REAL grown-ups and not getting slapped down for putting your own 2 cents in. And occasionally even being acknowledged as contributing something worthwhile. (Thanks JimRob for FR)

[retrokitten]

I agree. My resident office crazy guy is a conservative. He's not crazy because he's a conservative, he'd be crazy no matter which side of he aisle he voted on. He is so loud and gets into shouting matches with people when they don't agree with him.

Back when the war started he went off on one of our co-workers who mentioned something very innocently about France and had nothing to do with the war. These two were literally screaming at each other for a solid 10 minutes.

He went off on another co-worker who didn't agree with the war (we have lots of liberals in our office) and his big argument? "Girl, you don't know what you are talking about" over and over and over. Then he started harassing her by calling her and hanging up and following her around (it was the weekend and no authority types were around, personally I would have paged one and told them to get here immediately or I'm calling the cops, he's a psycho).

I generally don't talk politics with people at work unless I know them pretty well. Because I have to work with them everyday. I see these people more then I see my husband. It doesn't make for a good working enviroment to be shouting my political philosophy without reason. If someone asks, I'll tell them what I think, but if it doesn't really matter then I gently change the subject.

[condi2008]

Drat! I meant to try to listen to the Radio FR Comedy Show (wasn't it?) last night & missed it.

Do any of you know where I can catch the replay?

[umbagi]

You've got mail...

[Kip Lange]

(Do some of you ever sleep??)

What is this.."sleep"?...of which you speak?

[BagCamAddict]

***** NEWS *****

Russia now admits training Iraqi spies, but says intent was to fight crime, terrorism. (LOLOLOLOL)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/894970/posts

[BagCamAddict]

***** NEWS *****

Lost Viruses? - Dangerous Strains Unaccounted for in Post-War Iraq

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/895007/posts