Thanks I'll wear that with a badge of honor since not one of you has ever been able to refute any fact I've presented 185
Your supposed facts have been refuted more than a hundred times. Not all by one person but several people have refuted several of your supposed facts. That supposed badge you think you're wearing is an illusion.
Zon:
With the NRST if a person doesn't want to pay the tax they can choose to not buy the item -- and they can still get a check every month 157--------
It's not a welfare check. It's a way to recover the tax that must be paid on necessities, like food and medicine, 175
Uh huh, so receiving a tax rebate from the taxpayers for taxes never paid isn't welfare? 185You're so disingenuous. If we were to conduct a poll and asked 1,000 people that have read either H.R. 25 or the fairtax.org Web site whether they think the tax probate check is a welfare check, probably 99% of them would say it's not a welfare check. The purpose of the probate check is to cover the cost of the 23% tax on necessities up to the poverty level. To receive the monthly probate checks the head of house hold must tell the government how many people live in the household. Many wealthy people won't bother to signing up for the probate checks, especially those that value their family's privacy from an intrusive government.
Some very poor people will chose to grow their own food and use the probate check to buy things they can't grow or make. A single person living alone would receive about $70 a month. You can call it a welfare check all you want but the vast majority of people would disagree with you based on the intents and purpose of the probate checks.
Zon: And since no person has to report their income to the government the government has no tax incentive to snoop around in a person's private financial affairs. 157
Gee, the lies and deceit just keep piling on. Were you saying something about discredited? What fool would believe the government would write any law where they lost control of your source of income?...Sorry did I just call you a fool? 185
`SEC. 903. WAGES TO BE REPORTED TO SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION.
`(a) IN GENERAL- Employers shall submit such information to the Social Security
Social Security is not a tax. Taxes are revenue the government uses to operate the government and the government services are available to all citizens regardless of whether they pay income tax. Social Security is money that comes back to the person that paid into Social Security. If a person doesn't pay into their Social Security account they can't receive Social Security benefits. That's one point that refutes your supposed fact.
Employers must submit the equivalent of a W-2 form to the Social Security Administration for each employee. No person has to report that portion of their income to the government for any purposes and certainly not for tax purposes. That's a second point that refutes your supposed fact.
Plus, since income is not taxed the government has no tax incentive to snoop around in any person's financial affairs because the government will not be allowed to tax any person's income.
With the NRST the government doesn't require a person report their income from dividends and interest from investments or other capital gains. That's a third point that refutes your supposed fact.
I could go on but that's three strikes and you're out -- your supposed facts have been thrice refuted.
I've got to stop discrediting myself here.
Three strikes and you're out, and yes, you should stop discrediting yourself.
If we were to conduct a poll and asked 1,000 people that have read either H.R. 25 or the fairtax.org Web site whether they think the tax probate check[sic]
is a welfare check, probably 99% of them would say it's not a welfare check. ...
SO? You need 99 people out of 100 to tell you what to think, I don't....Besides, if you believe your own probability, why would you care what I call it? (Probate check?)
With the NRST the government doesn't require a person report their income from dividends and interest from investments or other capital gains.
They don't have to require it, it will be done by the institution when they disclose their implicit and explicit financial intermediation service fee's they collect from you based on the interest you've earned...You really need to bone up on what you're trying to sell. But maybe your right, in these days of tracking drug money and terrorist funding I'm sure the government will just forget all that for your new salestax.
Social Security is not a tax.
Hmmm. could've fooled me...OH speaking of what 99 out of 100 people would say, I'll bet 99 out of 100 people who pay FICA will tell you it's a tax...so, it must be a tax....Better yet let's see what the law calls it
Yep, it's a tax.
No person has to report that portion of their income to the government for any purposes and certainly not for tax purposes. That's a second point that refutes your supposed fact.
Well not exactly, for some reason you left out that you have to report self-employment income...see even when you have an employer, if you do work on the side you are required to declare your "self-employment" income, your sales tax doesn't change that. What is self-employment income"
`(c) SELF-EMPLOYMENT INCOME- For purposes of subsection (b), the term `self-employment income' means gross payments received for taxable property or services
That could even mean the sale of drugs or prostitution.
Plus, since income is not taxed the government has no tax incentive to snoop around in any person's financial affairs because the government will not be allowed to tax any person's income. ....Does the government snoop around in your financial affairs? Paranoia isn't healthy.
That brings us back to ill gotten gains such as drug money, terrorist funding/ activities, fraud and a whole host of other illegal activities...
SO, it looks more like 3 stikes and YOU'RE out...
