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To: WhiskeyPapa
Mr. Epperson provided some information concerning the cites used by Davis in his book The Long Surrender. The issue was the quote attributed to CJ Chase to the effect that "secession is not rebellion....

Thanks for sharing that original research on the origin of the Chase quote from Epperson. How long do you think you'll have to wait for 4CJ to acknowlege that his impeccable source on the matter [Burke Davis] is compromised?

936 posted on 05/06/2003 2:28:12 PM PDT by mac_truck
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To: mac_truck
Mr. Epperson provided some information concerning the cites used by Davis in his book The Long Surrender. The issue was the quote attributed to CJ Chase to the effect that "secession is not rebellion....

Thanks for sharing that original research on the origin of the Chase quote from Epperson. How long do you think you'll have to wait for 4CJ to acknowlege that his impeccable source on the matter [Burke Davis] is compromised?

I get the neo-rebs confused; one of them used some bogus material about Benjamin Butler meeting with Lincoln for quite a while after it was similarly exposed as unreliable.

I found some piece of text awhile back, but once I saw that appeared -nowhere- on the 'net, I deemed it unreliable and stopped using it.

One of the neo-rebs took issue with my saying that J.W. Booth flatly promised to kill Lincoln. Never happened, he said.

Of course it took me about 30 seconds to find that statement of Booth's on about 25 websites.

Walt

943 posted on 05/07/2003 5:44:58 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: mac_truck; WhiskeyPapa
How long do you think you'll have to wait for 4CJ to acknowlege that his impeccable source on the matter [Burke Davis] is compromised?

If I had the time to post all day, I might have responded sooner. Antyone familiar with Mr. Davis' works would understand that he is not one to favour the Southern position in these debates. But those that attempt to refute the quote should read the text provide by Walt to understand:

'The Shea and Boutwell pieces are readily available on CD, and neither of them contains the Chase quote, either. By elimination, that convicts the VBA article, unless Burke Davis made the whole thing up (unlikely) or failed to list his source for it (not impossible).'

I have a copy of 'The Trials and Trial of Jefferson Davis', and I already knew the quote was not contained therein - I have not checked the other citations in my copy of The Long Surrender. I do know that the quote in question is cited in an another, earlier volume (which might be where Mr. Davis obtained it). I will obtain a copy of that volume to pursue this matter further.

Just because Walt can't find a quote on the 'net doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

945 posted on 05/07/2003 4:49:26 PM PDT by 4CJ ('No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.' - Alexander Hamilton)
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