[HenryLeeII]

What Madison proposed was largely what was adopted, and no one had any question of this at the time of ratification. The rebels went outside the law because they knew they had no recourse -in- the law.

What Madison proposed and was largely adopted is the concept of dual sovereignty, whereby the states delegated certain powers to the Federal government and reserved all others for themselves.

It would be difficult for you to explain how the "rebels" went outside of the law when you admit freely that there was no prohibition, either in the Constitution or in other Federal laws, against a state withdrawing from the Union.

[WhiskeyPapa]

What Madison proposed and was largely adopted is the concept of dual sovereignty, whereby the states delegated certain powers to the Federal government and reserved all others for themselves.

Quote Madison to that effect.

"It is high time that the claim to secede at will should be put down by the public opinion; and I shall be glad to see the task commenced by someone who understands the subject."

This is in a letter of 12/23/32, to Nicholas Trist, who was serving in Andrew Jackson's Cabinet.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

It would be difficult for you to explain how the "rebels" went outside of the law when you admit freely that there was no prohibition, either in the Constitution or in other Federal laws, against a state withdrawing from the Union.

The whole Constitution prohibits secession.

The Supreme Court ruled secession outside the law. Focus on that.

Walt

[mrsmith]

Hey, welcome aboard. You have a good knowledge of our early history.