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To: HenryLeeII
Your "arguments" are getting more-and-more ignorant as you go. What you stated has nothing to do with constitutional theory or law. Your last shred of credibility is long gone. You are superflous to this thread. You are hereby dismissed.

"South Carolina...cannot get out of this Union until she conquers this government. The revenues must and will be collected at her ports, and any resistance on her part will lead to war. At the close of that war we can tell with certainty whether she is in or out of the Union. While this government endures there can be no disunion...

If the overt act on the part of South Carolina takes place on or after the 4th of March, 1861, then the duty of executing the laws will devolve upon Mr. Lincoln. The laws of the United States must be executed-- the President has no discretionary power on the subject -- his duty is emphatically pronounced in the Constitution. Mr. Lincoln will perform that duty. Disunion by armed force is treason, and treason must and will be put down at all hazards. The Union is not, and cannot be dissolved until this government is overthrown by the traitors who have raised the disunion flag. Can they overthrow it? We think not."

Illinois State Journal, November 14, 1860

The IJS was pretty much known to be speaking for the president elect.

No state has ever been out of the Union for an instant since the Articles of Confederation were passed.

Walt

789 posted on 05/02/2003 11:30:10 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
No, I'd say that eleven states were out of the union for quite some time. Your revisionism doesn't change history but you get an A for "stick-to-it-ness".
790 posted on 05/02/2003 11:36:29 AM PDT by rebelyell
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Let's see, you cannot cite any prohibition in the Constitution or Federal law against a state's withdrawal BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, so you are now deriving the power from a newspaper editorial. You're real funny!

794 posted on 05/02/2003 12:10:43 PM PDT by HenryLeeII
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