[mac_truck]

your "facts" simply do not support that conclusion. You are confusing the Free-Soilers (who were by definition what their name said - those who wanted free soil in the territories) with the abolitionists (who also wanted what their name said - the abolition of slavery). An abolitionist could be a Free-Soiler and some of them were, but not all Free-Soilers were abolitionists and far from it. In fact, the most successful Free-Soilers - as in the ones who won election to office and later became the Republicans - were NOT abolitionists.

Oh really? You're challenging the anti-slavery pedigree of the Free Soil party and its direct antecedent roots to the defunct Liberty party? Well lets follow the political path of one John Parker Hale.

Elected to the Senate as a Democrat from New Hampshire, Hale was an early leader in the New England anti-slavery movement. He joined the Liberty party and was their nominee for US president in 1848, but withdrew and joined the newly formed Free Soil party with Martin Van Buren. Four years later (1852), John P. Hale was the nominee for US President of the Free Soil party.

It seems pretty clear to me that the Liberty party merged with radical Democrats and conscience Whigs in 1848 to form the Free Soil party. That John P. Hale could go from US presidential nominee of the Liberty party in 1848 to US presidential nominee of the Free Soil party in 1852, informs me that abolitionist viewpoint predominated in the Free Soil party.

Your attempt to raise Spooner and Smith to eminence using the Liberty party of 1849 is a canard. Most contemporary references to the Liberty party do not extend past 1848 . Thats about when Smith and Spooner took over, isn't it?

-btw is it true that the one 'true' abolitionist Gerritt Smith did evenutally make it to US congress in 1852, as a...Free Soiler!?

[GOPcapitalist]

Oh really? You're challenging the anti-slavery pedigree of the Free Soil party and its direct antecedent roots to the defunct Liberty party?

No. Just the abolitionist pedigree you incorrectly ascribe to all members of the Free Soil Party.

Well lets follow the political path of one John Parker Hale.

Follow whatever path you like. As I said previously, some abolitionists were Free Soilers. But not all Free Soilers were abolitionists. See the distinction?

"But I differ from those who charge this baseness on the framers of the Constitution of the United States. It is a slander upon their memory, at least, so I believe. There is not time now to argue the constitutional question at length — nor have I the ability to discuss it as it ought to be discussed. The subject has been handled with masterly power by Lysander Spooner, Esq., by William Goodell, by Samuel E. Sewall, Esq., and last, though not least, by Gerritt Smith, Esq. These gentlemen have, as I think, fully and clearly vindicated the Constitution from any design to support slavery for an hour." - Frederick Douglass, "What to a Slave is the Fourth of July," 1852