[rebelyell]

The only way lincoln could have "died to save America" would have been if he were killed before he was even elected. That might have "saved" America.

His un-Constitutional actions killed what the founders created...that is beyond dispute.

[republicanwizard]

Sure. Lincoln changed a nation which for nearly a century had lived in sin and made it a pure nation without a great moral blemish.

Interesting that you refuse to confront the moral evil of slavery. I'm proud of my Party's Sumner heritage.

[Non-Sequitur]

...that is beyond dispute

No, that statement is beyond belief.