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Will classic rock last for all eternity?
Oak Lawn (IL) Reporter ^ | 4/17/03 | Michael M. Bates

Posted on 04/15/2003 4:46:52 PM PDT by mikeb704

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To: VANHALEN2002
Love me some Trevor Rabin...but Rush will always be the #1 underdog of rock.


241 posted on 04/16/2003 11:53:31 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Got a case of Diet Rite, I could hold out here all night". (We changed the whole thing to a parody about a guy hiding from the law in a grocery store.)

Good stuff. You should post that parody here on the internet under parody songs..

Song Parodies

* 972: Can't Buy A Thrill - best songs..Do it AGain, Reeling in the Years, Dirty Work..
* 1973: Countdown To Ecstasy - best songs, Bodhisattva, The Boston Rag, Your Gold Teeth, Show Biz Kids, My old School
* 1974: Pretzel Logic - Best songs..Night by night, East St. Louis Toodle-oo, Parker's band
* 1975: Katy Lied - best songs - Black Friday, Bad Sneakers, Dr. Wu
* 1976: The Royal Scam - Best songs - Kid Charlamagne, Don't Take me Alive, The Caves of Altamira
* 1977: Aja - Best songs - Black Cow, AJa, Deacon Blues, Josie
* 1980: Gaucho - best songs - Babylon Sisters, Hey Nineteen,
* 2000: Two Against Nature - Gaslighting Abbie, What a shame about me, West of Hollywood

I'll buy anthing Dan record that still has Becker in charge of music and fagan in charge of the lyrics.

They haven't always been a duo, but overtime found out that it was much more convenient to go ahead as a duo and recruit whichever session musicians and guest stars they deemed it appropriate at the moment instead of depending on a regular backing band. Their point of existence was to mock American society by combining the most radio-happy melodies and arrangements possible with the most sneering, biting, poisonously satiric lyrics possible. Their sophistication was in working over those radio-happy melodies and arrangements for months and sometimes even years, sterilizing, polishing, and brushing every note to some kind of modelled perfection, and in working over the sneering lyrics so as to make them as inaccessible as could be. Their personal mystique was in gradual self-concealing, when they used to give out something like one interview per album and didn't tour at all.

242 posted on 04/16/2003 11:54:53 AM PDT by majordivit
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244 posted on 04/16/2003 11:56:09 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: majordivit
Actually I think the thing Queen embodies more than anything (they touched on glam but not as much as Sly and the Family Stone or T-Rex) was that quintesential 70s concept: arena rock. Queen is music that should be listened to with 70,000 people played from a stage the size of a city block with a light show that just bumped Westinghouse stock 10 points. From the opening notes of "Keep Yourself Alive" Queen was destined or the football stadiums, I'd loved to have seen them in the early days when they were clubbing I bet the filled the club with overwrought sound. I remember at Live Aid where most bands seemed to intimidated by the size of the crowd Queen walked on stage like it was their birthright to play in TWO stadiums at the same time, like it was bound to happen to them eventually because, after all, they're Queen. Really learned a lot about the band when Freddie died and everybody started scrambling to say Queen played in their genre.
245 posted on 04/16/2003 11:56:16 AM PDT by discostu (I have not yet begun to drink)
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To: discostu
I'm sure location had a lot to do with it. We were in Virginia and North Carolina playing at Nag's Head, Elizabeth City roller rinks, and WGAI radio in EC for the young crowd who only wanted to hear current pop. We also played for local clubs that had older folks for patrons, plus WTID in Norfolk, a country station; that's where the C&W was necessary. Our audiences wouldn't have been nearly as sophisticated as Chicago's.
246 posted on 04/16/2003 11:56:46 AM PDT by gcruse (If they truly are God's laws, he can enforce them himself.)
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To: gcruse
I wouldn't say the Chicago audience was sophisticated, they just listened to a lot more old black people... of course how many of them realized the color of the artists' skin and would have been happy to find out is another discussion.
247 posted on 04/16/2003 12:00:02 PM PDT by discostu (I have not yet begun to drink)
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To: Rebelbase
"10-15 years from now it will be 80's music. God help us all."

Take The Quiz

The 80's


248 posted on 04/16/2003 12:00:57 PM PDT by tuna_battle_slight_return
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To: weegee
The Yardbirds are back? Who's playing, the remnants of the Swinging Blue Jeans and the Honeycombs? (No, seriously!) By the way, the Pretty Things have re-formed to as close as they can get to the original squad and they rocked on an album issued a couple of years ago which sounded like the Rolling Stones should sound and which my local store has been giving away for a coupla bucks a copy! A revelation! I missed them though when they played some small clubs in the area! I hope they're still together!
249 posted on 04/16/2003 12:01:49 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Subvert the dominant cliche!)
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To: discostu
You've got me pumped to go out and get Roots to Branches. I'm suddenly very interesting in hearing Ian's new playing style.

I'm looking forward to the 24 bit remastered version of Live Bursting Out. The sound is quite good except there is some trouble with the overall mix. Barlow's drumming suffers a bit in a couple of the songs.

BTW... I never purchased the original Live Bursting Out Cd. I still listen to the LP on my old Kenwood Turntable...

250 posted on 04/16/2003 12:06:52 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: Wednesday's Child
I also have 8-tracks and 45's!

And you think you're something? I have a buddy who'd be wholly unimpressed. He's boomer musician who used to play punk rock and who now collects wax cylinder records and won't listen to anything recorded after around 1926!

(Above is no flame!) Do you have or remember 33 1/3 RPM 10'' LPs? Or 45 EPs? Presley issued a whole bunch of 45 EPs in the early 60s with colorful covers and up to 6 tunes from his sorry movies. You could also buy albums on reel to reel tapes, I recall. Somebody, perhaps the French, experimented for a while with 16 RPM LP records for spoken word recordings. Those were the days!

251 posted on 04/16/2003 12:10:29 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Subvert the dominant cliche!)
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To: majordivit
Well if you've got dot-com you've heard it, but by then it had slipped more to its usual place not a strong feature like on RtB. As Ian put it his old playing style was really starting to wear on his body causing him major headaches and hand cramps so playing the flute had lost it's joy. Which is why he persued lessons when his daughter said his fingering was wrong. So a lot of RtB seems to come from it being fun to play the flute again, and (as you can tell on dot-com or even Living With the Past) doing it right allows him to do a lot of soft subtle stuff he was never able to before because he had to breath a lot harder to get a clean note. Listening to it right now, Rare and Precious Chain (which you said you've heard), he never could have done that light flute in the beginning before he didn't have the tonal control.

I never bought the Bursting Out CD either, the missing tracks annoyed me too much (not that I could find two to get rid of). Turning an LP into CDs is pretty easy, and fun I'd forgotten how much great music I have on LP.
252 posted on 04/16/2003 12:17:50 PM PDT by discostu (I have not yet begun to drink)
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To: Revolting cat!
Yes, I have 33 1/3 RPM 's too. :) The only Presley I have is albums. I remember when radio stations would announce the next song they were going to play. I put the old reel to reel on pause and wait......then I'd record! lol It was tricky sometimes. I don't have any wax cylinder records. I do have some Big Band 78's though. Someday my kids are going to be ticked going thru all my old stuff :) I keep telling them everything I ever saved is valuable! lol
253 posted on 04/16/2003 12:20:16 PM PDT by Wednesday's Child
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To: Burr5
hey you forgot the Ditzy Chicks in the burnin' and crushin'
254 posted on 04/16/2003 12:20:53 PM PDT by DeathfromBelow
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To: Joe Whitey
Another guitar player to watch out for is Mato Nanji from a band called "Indigenous." I caught them on Austin City Limits a while back and was totally blown away.
255 posted on 04/16/2003 12:24:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: God luvs America
"As timeless as the sun rising from the east is the music of Led Zeppelin. There will never be another band like Zep; their music has stood the test of time and stands up to ANYTHING being produced today or the past twenty years".

You are 100% correct in making that statement.Those 8 albums truly show the Writing and Producing Ingenuity of Jimmy Page, a fact that cannot be denied. There's a double live DVD coming out in May (Produced and Mastered by Jimmy)that are Pro-Shot Live Led-Zeppelin shows from 1970,1975 and 1979 ( and a host of extra clips)that will allow a whole different generation of people to 'feel' the Power of a Live Zeppelin show.That point can't be emphasized enough.

256 posted on 04/16/2003 12:25:23 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug , Holier-Than-Thou Socialist)
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To: discostu
roblem is the CD version cut out a great Martin Barre instrumental and one other great track,

If I'm not mistaken, the other track was 'Sweet Dream'. Smart move to burn the LP to a CDR. I haven't figured out how to do that yet. I have burned casettes to a CDR but only from a portable casette player. The live version of 'Sweet Dream' on the last years live Tull record, Living with the Past, is well worth hearing for people who don't have the double album/CD Live Bursting Out. Martin's guitar is twice as metallic-sounding as on the original version and Ian's vocals particularly expressive and "unslurred", it may be even harder-hitting than the studio version, although maybe a bit less subtle at the same time.

257 posted on 04/16/2003 12:25:39 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: Revolting cat!
I saw the Yardbirds play at the Pinnacle in Los Angeles circa 1967. But I was so whacked, I really don't remember much of it. Bummer... LOL
258 posted on 04/16/2003 12:28:03 PM PDT by gcruse (If they truly are God's laws, he can enforce them himself.)
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To: Wednesday's Child
I too love classic rock. Fortunately for you, you're aware that some of the big acts from those days have more than one or two songs in their catalogues. Though its getting harder to find a lot of great stuff still in print.

I was referring to the 100 or so songs that are pre-programmed and played without deviation.
259 posted on 04/16/2003 12:28:22 PM PDT by okiesap
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