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To: JohnHuang2
You got that right. I own a Kung Fu school and my thirty+ years of observation in that arena show that a well trained woman can trash most untrained men, but, given the same training, nearly every man will take her out with ease, unless she is a very unusually large and manly woman. Is is a grave disservice to tell women that they are men. (And it's a lie.)

Just reality folks. Nothing to see here. Move along.
3 posted on 04/15/2003 12:19:13 AM PDT by Thorondir
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To: Thorondir
Im going to disagree with you slightly. Even well trained women usually dont have the strength/stamina/speed to compete with a healthy male. In my very limited martial arts experience, I had almost no problem dealing punishment to several black-belted women in my training dojo. And I never advanced farther than the middle stages of my chosen practices-tae kwon do and shotokan karate. Although I am a soldier, Im only 30-50 pounds heavier than many women, and Ive found that I can deal effectively with that weight gap when engaging men, whereas women cannot.
So-run any schools in the VA area? Ill be back home soon.
take care.
4 posted on 04/15/2003 12:50:33 AM PDT by Tin-Legions
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To: Thorondir
It is not only the fact that women usually cannot match male casual and peak output strength, nor that men generally have a longer reach.
There is also the fact that men tend to be more decisive in a linear objective solution scenario than are women.
There is also the simple fact of bone density - since men generally weigh more and are stronger and are pumped full of testosterone, our bones are denser - they have to be to sustain the forces our mass and muscle exert on our frames. That means that a backhand or punch that might merely annoy a man will usually damage a woman's bones.
There is also the simple fact of mass. Case in point: I am exceedingly strong for my weight, but I only weigh 150 lbs. Simple newtonian mechanics governs physical labor and combat. There are many things that I am not capable of doing as easily as a man who out-masses me by 30-50 lbs, simply because the principle of "equal and opposite reaction" effects my lesser mass more than their greater mass. Physics does not bow to PC.
I have known a few effective women fighters.
They were effective because they did not try to fight as men do, but used their female characteristics to advantage (dexterity, flexibility, greater per-pound leg strength, lower center of mass, and a certain female viciousness which most men cannot imagine let alone match). However, only a few, and even they could not stand against an equally trained man of the same mass, let alone a heavier one.
Reality trumps pipe dreams.
I wish the feminazis would buy a clue.
12 posted on 04/15/2003 5:20:41 AM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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To: Thorondir
I helped teach a self-defense class in college (because I was the smallest guy) and our instructor always told the women "You cannot beat a man. The most you can do is get away from him". I thought that was good advice because I had to help all the women throw me, even the biggest ones. Some of them had martial arts training and were looking for an easy A. They were shocked when the men would simply charge them and throw them down.
26 posted on 04/15/2003 5:50:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Thorondir
God Created Man and Woman, The Remmington 870 made them equal.

As for combat, this article and your points and dead on.
63 posted on 04/15/2003 9:31:56 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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