[Mulder]

Presidents have got to move close to the middle to have any chance at winning an election.

This is liberal crap spewed by democrats, RINOs, and the media.

In the last 30 years, conservatives have done very well in elections (Reagan in 80 and 84 and Newt in 94). Liberals have had their clocks cleaned in landslides on several occasions, while you have to go back 40 years to find the last time a hard-core conservative was defeated at the national level.

"Moving to the middle" may work for the demoncrats, since they are trying to portray themselves as conservatives, but it doesn't work too well for Republicans when they try to act like liberals by "moving to the middle".

[ez]

Your posts make the most sense on this nonsensical thread. There's a whole lotta people here who apparently know very little about everything, and aren't afraid to show it.

Bush is not a fool. He promised "to support existing law" when it comes to gun control. He will keep that promise and hope Congress kills the ban.

As for those who are arguing that the ban is good, may their chains rest lightly upon them.

[okiesap]

If you really believe my statements about candidates movng center is liberal crap you are suffering denial. Clinton won by surfing the middle. Perhaps you helped his cause by voting for Perot. Clinton won again despite his tax increases and support of gun control.

When either party shifts too far to the right or left, they lose.....the swing voters don't like THE PERCEPTION of extremism, even though the protection of the 2nd amendment is anything but. Plus the "soccer moms" become frightened

Going back...Nixon won because McGovern was the counter culture candidate. Reagan won in 1980 because even those on the left couldn't stomach four more years of Carter's EXTREME inability to lead as epitomized by the Iran hostage crisis and runaway inflation.

Reagan won again due to Mondale's EXTREME promise to raise taxes.

Dukakis had no charisma, Bush 41 had a little. Charisma combined with centrist campaigning wins elections.