[Cultural Jihad]

Frankly, I don't think President Bush needs or wants the votes of those who think they need to stockpile assault weapons for the purpose of violently overthrowing the government someday.

If these self-marginalized ideologues can't get their way with the ballot box they will just have to grow up and learn to lump it.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...I don't think President Bush needs or wants the votes of those who think they need to stockpile assault weapons for the purpose of violently overthrowing the government someday....

Our side needs every vote it can get at every election. But the biggest plus about gunowners is that they are very often the most motivated campaign workers, too.

[wardaddy]

CJ,

History around the world in former private gun ownership nations is replete with incremenatalism.

Assault weapons as defined by this bill are simply semi-automatic firearms with a few extra bells and whistles.

A true assault weapon is already stringently controlled and have been for 70+ years.

After high capacity semi-automatic rifles then it will be semi-automatic period or perhaps long range or certain optical attachments....and then it will end up one day like the UK...nada except hunting shotguns with birdshot or target .22s all conveniently stored at the constables office unless you are landed gentry.

And meanwhile, epidemic crime will continue and peaceable folks will have less chances of defending themselves.

These gun control groups want to disarm the country...make no mistake. Give them an inch and they take a mile. Look at the Brady Bill database....Ashcroft is having to threaten local authorities to force them to destroy a database which was never supposed to be a database to begin with...and guess what?...they still aren't listening in the blue zones.

Further...you bring up a sticky hypothetical: insurrection...do you think that is not possible here again....nothing is "not possible". Think of 50 years of Hitlery and company and all the erosion of freedom and CULTURE that will accompany that.

How will our descendents throw off that yoke? March thru the streets like Ghandi?

Nah...I like the option of firearms to keep us free. Call me a kook. I watch the world...and I learn from precedence.

But never fear...if they can't outlaw guns...they will simply outlaw gunowners....that is the other half of their pincher movement.

Nevertheless....we must support our side no doubt and not throw away votes towards certain doom but we had better work very very hard to make sure W and our congress folks hear us.

They do take us for granted though...they know we have no option and they are hell bent in creating a Republican super majority even if it means moving left a bit.

Whatever...I hope we don't waste the political capital whenever we finally get it.

[PuNcH]

Frankly, I don't think President Bush needs or wants the votes of those who think they need to stockpile assault weapons for the purpose of violently overthrowing the government someday.

You clearly dont know what the assault ban is..

Those of you who dont actually know what the assault weapons ban does need to explain why there should be a ban on semi-automatic rifles. If you cant think of a good reason then you need to just drop the whole "assault weapon" propaganda and stop acting like tools.