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To: diamond6
" And what does "infringement" mean to you? Are you saying that none of the Bill of Rights allow restriction or limitation of these rights by the government?"

That was given back in #1587. The right does not imply it's misuse. Just as the right to speak does not protect it's misuse by a robber announcing a holdup. The 2nd Amend. does not mean the right allows arms to be used as a tool of coercion to enforce the verbal threats made during the robbery. The right to self defense is a valid right, that the right to bear arms can provide for effective enforcement. A right is not infringed by restricting action that infringes on the rights of others. It is infringed when the exercise of that right is limited absolutely w/o regard for any action taken by the holder of that right.

1,593 posted on 04/21/2003 8:24:06 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets
" And what does "infringement" mean to you? Are you saying that none of the Bill of Rights allow restriction or limitation of these rights by the government?"

That was given back in #1587. The right does not imply it's misuse. Just as the right to speak does not protect it's misuse by a robber announcing a holdup. The 2nd Amend. does not mean the right allows arms to be used as a tool of coercion to enforce the verbal threats made during the robbery. The right to self defense is a valid right, that the right to bear arms can provide for effective enforcement. A right is not infringed by restricting action that infringes on the rights of others. It is infringed when the exercise of that right is limited absolutely w/o regard for any action taken by the holder of that right. Is the right to keep and bear arms imited "absolutely",when a law is passed by government restricting the use of some, but NOT ALL, weapons?

1,598 posted on 04/21/2003 8:41:51 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: spunkets
CORRECTION: " And what does "infringement" mean to you? Are you saying that none of the Bill of Rights allow restriction or limitation of these rights by the government?"

That was given back in #1587. The right does not imply it's misuse. Just as the right to speak does not protect it's misuse by a robber announcing a holdup. The 2nd Amend. does not mean the right allows arms to be used as a tool of coercion to enforce the verbal threats made during the robbery. The right to self defense is a valid right, that the right to bear arms can provide for effective enforcement. A right is not infringed by restricting action that infringes on the rights of others. It is infringed when the exercise of that right is limited absolutely w/o regard for any action taken by the holder of that right.

Is the right to keep and bear arms limited "absolutely",when a law is passed by government restricting the use of some, but NOT ALL, arms to individual citizens?

1,599 posted on 04/21/2003 8:43:51 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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