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My opinion is that it looks like a whole lot of people are blowing a piece of leftist anti-Bush propaganda (published, by the socialist/marxist Washington Post, no less) all out of proportion. Looks like a whole lot of anti-Republicans are gleefully jumping onto the Washington Post's leftist Bush bashing bandwagon. My advice to those who are so happy to bash Bush and the Republicans ought to be very careful who they go to bed with. Destroy the momentum currently building for one of the very rare conservative led governments in all of U.S. history and they're liable to wake up with a real gun-grabbing socialist whore, ahem, as in Hillary Clinton, in the White House.

No wonder conservatives can't make any real headway in government. As soon as the momentum starts building, out come the hand-wringing doom and gloom naysayers, for whom no conservative is good enough, to smear and destroy any and all progress made todate by the Republicans, and by doing so, reinstalling the leftist liberals to their socialist government command posts.

And the downward spiral to socialist hell spins on.

Time to break the cycle by not surrendering to the left or to the well-meaning, but misguided right-wing naysayers. Continue the Republican conservative revolution. Dump the RATS!

BTW, it's a real laugher when right-wingers start allying themselves with known leftists (International Answer, for example) and then have the audacity to accuse conservative FReepers of being "statists." Many of these same "right-wing conservatives" (probably mostly Buchanites or self-labeled so-called "paleocons") have openly allied themselves with the marxists, communists, anarchists, and other anti-war Hollywood type leftists against Bush, against defending America, against defending freedom, and against Republicanism in general. FReepers are statists for backing Bush? Yeah, right. By that same logic, that would make Buchanan and his paleocon followers marxists, or in the very least, useful idiots, for supporting the Washington Post and the real unAmerican, freedom hating Hollywood anti-war gun-grabbing left, et al.

"We have met the enemy and he are us." The paleocons are fond of using this Pogoism as applied to mainstream conservatives, but, in many cases, I'd say the finger points right back at them. The anti-Republican conservatives seem to be the enemy of sustained conservative government.

I'm a liberty minded individual who backs the Constitution and the Bill of Rights 100%, but there is no way that I'm going to dump Bush or dump the Republican majority. Not now. Not ever. The momentum is building and will continue to build. If we want to remove liberalism and socialism from our government and restore constitutional limits, etc., then, IMHO, we cannot possibly allow the Democrats to regain control. Reelecting president Bush, and gaining larger majorities in the House, the Senate, and the Judiciary and also in state and local governments is a must if we are ever to retake America and our Liberty. This is my goal for the coming election cycle and beyond.

Naysayers be damned. Full speed ahead!

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

As I said, there is no room for liberal or authoritarian debate on this issue.
According to the U.S. Constitution, this is one of our primary unalienable rights. They cannot deprive you of this. Just take a Constitutional stand and refuse to give up your gun.
Any Congressman who tries to infringe your right is a traitor to the Constitution and deserves to be defeated.

103 Posted on 11/28/1999 11:24:02 PST by Jim Robinson (jimrob@psnw.com)
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That was then, this is now:

"I'm a liberty minded individual who backs the Constitution and the Bill of Rights 100%, but there is no way that I'm going to dump Bush or dump the Republican majority. Not now. Not ever."
-Jim Rob-

How do you square the above, with this?

"Any Congressman who tries to infringe your right is a traitor to the Constitution and deserves to be defeated."

Agree totally with that statement Jim. This type of thing gripes us to no end. What PLANET are these people living on?? This is one of the most destructive things people do to a party they mostly agree with.

There will NEVER be a President we agree with 100 percent on all things. Thats just humanly impossible, especially in light of the fact that NONE Of us are alike/identitcal either physically or mentally.

It is so sickening to watch Repubs and conservatives eat their own. We have often said, thats why the Dems kept winning. They stood beside their man or woman no matter what.

I think Republicans are more principled than that. If one of ours really screws up.. he is toast.

But continueing this particular gun ban, and in light I might add under a sense of hightened security, won't stop a vote for President Bush by us.

We have the house.. we have the Senate.. We have the presidency..but we will not keep them if we think of our candidates as only ONE issue candidates. That is just plain STUPID!!

Sheesh... We have an awesome President. He is decent, has put together a wonderful experienced team... the dream team.

Then we come here today to see this kind of hyperbole and hysteria.

Get real folks. PLEASE...THINK FOR A WHILE BEFORE COMMENTING! Think of the ramifications of what some of you suggest. (shaking my head here in disbelief) The timing of this, when we just did an awesome job in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Phillipines and other places, all since this man took office,.. and after all he has accomplished, a petition or plan like the one in this article is just the epitomy of shooting yourself in your own foot. I honestly have to question the motives of the people collecting the signatures.

We both respectfully and vehemently disagree with this group who professes to speak for all of us, and the opinion of many in this thread. You all need to know when you have a good thing,.. WHILE YOU HAVE IT.. before you LOOSE IT!!

FRegards, Vet