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As I Predicted, George W. Bush Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban
Toogood Reports ^ | April 15, 2003 | By Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 04/14/2003 7:45:39 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

Edited on 04/17/2003 6:40:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

As I Predicted, George W. Bush
Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban

TooGood Reports
By Chuck Baldwin
Chuck Baldwin Website
April 15, 2003

In this column dated December 17, 2002, I predicted that President G.W. Bush would support the so-called assault weapons ban first promoted by former President Bill Clinton and Sen. Diane Feinstein back in 1994. Interestingly enough, the gun ban became law on the strength of a tie-breaking vote by then Vice President Al Gore. The ban is scheduled to sunset next year, but Bush is joining Clinton and Gore in supporting an extension.

Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan said, "The president supports the current law (the Clinton gun ban), and he supports reauthorization of the current law."

This must come as quite a blow to people such as the leaders of the National Rifle Association who campaigned heavily for Bush touting him as a "pro-gun" candidate. Since his election, the NRA and others have repeatedly reaffirmed their support for Bush, because he is "pro-gun." Well, now the mask is off!

I have tried to warn my readers that Bush is not a true conservative. He is not pro-life; he is not pro-family; he is not pro-Constitution. And now we know he is not pro-gun.

Instead of reversing the miserable policies of Clinton/Gore, Bush is helping to harden the cement around those policies. The gun issue is no exception.

The so-called assault weapons ban was the benchmark piece of legislation reflecting the anti-gun policies of people such as Clinton, Gore, Feinstein, and New York Senator Charles Schumer. It was also the number one target of the NRA. In fact, the NRA all but promised their supporters that a Bush presidency would help reverse this Draconian gun ban. Instead, Bush is pushing Congress to extend the ban.

A bill to reauthorize the gun ban will be introduced by Senator Feinstein in the coming weeks. It must pass both chambers of Congress to reach the President's desk. The best chance of stopping it will be in the House of Representatives. However, in order to defeat this bill, it must resist the power and influence of the White House. This will be no small task.

Not only is Bush betraying the pro-gun voters who helped elect him, he is breathing new life into a nearly dead anti-gun movement. Most political analysts credit Bush's pro-gun image as the chief reason he defeated Al Gore in the 2000 election. They also credit the pro-gun image of the Republican Party for helping them to achieve impressive wins in the 2002 congressional elections.

Now, Bush is giving new credibility to anti-gun zealots such as Schumer and Feinstein and is helping to reinvigorate the anti-gun momentum that had all but been put on ice.

However, the real question will be, "Will pro-gun conservatives continue to support Bush?" Bush is every bit the "Teflon President" that Clinton was. Conservatives seem willing to overlook anything he does, no matter how liberal or unconstitutional it may be. Will they overlook this, also?

If you truly believe in the Second Amendment and are willing to do something about it, I suggest you go to the Gun Owners of America website. They have a quick link set up which allows people an opportunity to conveniently send email to the White House about this issue. Go to the gun ban "alert" button. From there you can voice your disapproval with the President's decision to betray his constituents by supporting this new round of gun control.

Once again, the ball of freedom and constitutional government is in the court of the American people. Will they keep the ball and do something with it, or will they hand it off to the neo-conservatives at the White House? We'll see.


PLEASE Don't Sit out 2004, EVEN IF Bush signs the AW ban extention

Bush Supports New Extension Of Assault-Weapons Ban

Bush Backs Renewing Assault Weapons Ban



"That’s why I’m for instant background checks at gun shows. I’m for trigger locks."
George W. Bush - Source: St. Louis debate Oct 17,2000.

MORE INJUSTICE ON THE WAY - Bush GUN CONTROL
"Gene Healy, a Cato Institute scholar, recently provided a thorough exploration of the unintended consequences of one law, the new Bush-Ashcroft plan to federalize gun crimes, known as the Project Safe Neighborhoods program. The unintended consequences of this law are frightening."
NOTE: Same Article in Washington Times.

There Goes the Neighborhood: The Bush-Ashcroft Plan to "Help" Localities Fight Gun Crime, by Gene Healy

"W. Wimps Out on Guns"
The Bush package includes several pet causes of the gun-control lobby, including $75 million for gun locks; $15.3 million for 113 new federal attorneys to serve as full-time gun prosecutors; and $19.1 million to expand a program by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms aimed at preventing youths from obtaining guns. Although Bush stressed that he simply wants to "enforce existing laws," the fine print of Project Safe echoes the gun-grabbing Left's call to ban the importation of high-capacity ammunition clips."

Project Safe Neighborhoods, A Closer Look

LAURA BUSH:
"During her San Diego speech, for instance, she said nothing about the school shooting that occurred 20 miles away in El Cajon the day before, although in a television interview she condemned it, adding that she thinks more gun control laws are needed.

"I think that's very important," she said when asked by CNN whether stronger gun laws are needed."
Source.

EMERSON & THE SECOND AMENDMENT

A Gutless Supreme Court Decision - Gun Control

Republican Leadership Help Push Gun Control

Bush's Assault On Second Amendment

NEA Resource Text Guide In Regards To The Extreme Right - Where Do Your Kids Go To School?
"The radical right says it is pro-life but it bitterly opposes gun control legislation"

or

A Problem With Guns?


Thanks for that Patriot Act George


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; bang; banglist; bush; guns; secondamendment
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To: Mulder; *bang_list; DCBryan1; Fiddlstix; harpseal; Noumenon; Squantos; sit-rep; Travis McGee
Check out this thread.... lots of crap being spewed out.

I'm stopping after reading your post. Too many people on FR have fallen for the liberal lie hook, line, and sinker. Or maybe they're just stupid. Either way, when at least 50% of participants on a website that is supposed to represent conservatism are spouting statist positions, it helps you understand how little the blood of the Founders means to most conservatives.

941 posted on 04/16/2003 12:17:28 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: diamond6
Can any other freeper come up with ONE viable candidate for president that is more conservative than Bush?
-d6-



We never will, with the half vast neo-con Rino control of the GOP.

Our 'two party' system is a joke.
942 posted on 04/16/2003 12:20:23 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: heckler
It's all quite simple.

The AWB is a battle WE can win without G.W.

Agreed. I know that I will not hold it against the president if it never reaches his desk. He can help influence passage, but if he's just doing lip service, I can live with that in a political climate.

A vote against G.W. in 2004 gains you......what?..a warm fuzzy while some Demo takes away ALL youre guns?

No, it gains us power and credibility. If Bush loses the WH because of this, the message is once again crystal clear. The elected Dem will not be able to take away all our guns. The Repubs in the congress will not attempt to pass further unconstitutional 2nd amendment restrictions. The next Republican president won't (or shouldn't) either. It's a win as far as I'm concerned.

943 posted on 04/16/2003 12:20:59 PM PDT by gtech (Free Miguel)
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To: TLBSHOW

SOURCE

"BUT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WILL PROTECT OUR RIGHTS!

Ignoring the prominent role Republicans have played in "gun control" from the Brady Law (pushed through by Bob Dole) to the horribly abusive enforcement programs Project Safe Neighborhoods and Project Exile (See the Cato Institute Policy Analysis, "There Goes the Neighborhood" http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-440es.html), many gun owners are still snoozing, figuring George W. Bush and John Ashcroft will protect their rights.

But why should we expect that? Remember:

And anti-gun activists like the Bradys and the Million Moms recognize weasel words when they hear them. They may dis the Bush administration publicly, but privately they know that Bush, Ashcroft, and the vast majority of other politicians will not oppose them -- especially when they can point to horrors like the current east-coast shootings. In the emotion of the moment, anyone who points out that "gun control" doesn't stop criminals, or that it's unconstitutional, or that it only creates more victims, is shouted down as a cold, uncaring, crime-loving monster.

This is how freedom is lost: Pressure groups push, using emotion to overcome facts and logic. Politicians -- who don't have any principles to ground them, anyway -- cave in. And as the song says, they take just "A Little Bit More" (http://www.jpfo.org/livefree.htm).

944 posted on 04/16/2003 12:24:00 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: diamond6
Thanks for inspiring my new tagline! :-)
945 posted on 04/16/2003 12:25:30 PM PDT by k2blader (Pity people paralyzed in paradigms of political perfection.)
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To: k2blader
Thank you. I like it!
946 posted on 04/16/2003 12:27:30 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: diamond6
Can any other freeper come up with ONE viable candidate for president that is more conservative than Bush?

That'll be the day.

947 posted on 04/16/2003 12:28:19 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Sir Gawain
This site was once dedicated to constitutional restoration.

Now we are told that decent human beings must make allowances for neo-'conservative' views on gun control such as those expressed on this thread. -- Mind boggling, imo.
948 posted on 04/16/2003 12:31:04 PM PDT by tpaine
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Get this out of your systems and vote a straight GOP ticket.
949 posted on 04/16/2003 12:34:03 PM PDT by Consort (Use only un-hyphenated words when posting.)
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To: Roscoe
Can any other freeper come up with ONE viable candidate for president that is more conservative than Bush?

That'll be the day.

Judging by the size of the Federal Government... Bill Clinton!

950 posted on 04/16/2003 12:34:36 PM PDT by gtech (Free Miguel)
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To: Roscoe
Yep, its a sad day for the republic. -- We agree roscoe!


[actually its me new decent human being persona coming out]
951 posted on 04/16/2003 12:35:14 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
At the risk of sounding like I'm wankering mentally, I dont throw away a full house in hopes of drawing a royal flush.

Vote G.W. in 2004 and hope for a more conservative hand in 2008.
952 posted on 04/16/2003 12:35:37 PM PDT by heckler (wiskey for my men, beer for my horses ,sexy for me)
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To: heckler
Your risk taking failed, -- sorry.
953 posted on 04/16/2003 12:38:00 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
I was afraid of that.....
954 posted on 04/16/2003 12:41:03 PM PDT by heckler (wiskey for my men, beer for my horses ,sexy for me)
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To: Sir Gawain
Either way, when at least 50% of participants on a website that is supposed to represent conservatism are spouting statist positions, it helps you understand how little the blood of the Founders means to most conservatives.

Contrast the following behaviors from this admin:

On the one hand, they have come out in support of an unconstitutional edict infringing on our Constitutional Rights. As conservatives, we're expected to shut up and take it.

On the other hand, when a WH aide (or some such employee of the executive) made a comment about "AIDS being a gay disease", that community wasn't expected to shut up and take it. Quite the contrary, the indidividual who made that statement was fired.

What is a conservative Republican supposed to believe about an adminstration that cares more for gay "rights" than gun Rights?

955 posted on 04/16/2003 12:41:31 PM PDT by Mulder (No matter how paranoid you are, you're not paranoid enough)
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To: TLBSHOW
"In 1998, President Clinton announced a general ban on the importation of more than 50 non-recreational, modified assault weapons. The Treasury Department concluded that modified semiautomatic assault rifles that accept large capacity military magazines "or LCMM rifles" are not "particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes" and are generally not importable. The more than 50 models of firearms affected by the decision are modified versions of military assault weapons that were banned by the Bush Administration in 1989 or by the assault weapons ban of 1994."

NAZI STRATEGY SUMMED UP IN 2 WORDS: "SPORTING PURPOSE"

956 posted on 04/16/2003 12:54:59 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: heckler
What a great analogy!
957 posted on 04/16/2003 12:56:08 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Fred Mertz
Gun Grabbing Socialists At VPC Excited About President Bush's Support on Reauthorization of Federal Assault Weapons Ban

NOTE: The National Rifle Association acknowledges the VPC as "the most effective...anti-gun rabble rouser in Washington."

958 posted on 04/16/2003 1:05:18 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Waco was no big deal.

Can you name one thing Janet Reno did that you don't approve of?
959 posted on 04/16/2003 1:20:08 PM PDT by jmc813 (The average citizen in Baghdad,right now, has more firearm rights than anyone in our country.)
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To: Uncle Bill
From the first VPC link:

This reaffirmation of the President's campaign promise is a positive step in protecting the American public. We are equally encouraged by Attorney General Ashcroft's view that the ban is constitutional. Given the President's enormous prestige in his party, having the White House on our side should help insure that the Republican House and Senate will pass meaningful legislation to keep these weapons of war off our streets. Unlike NRA head Wayne LaPierre, who apparently believes the President is `somewhat irrelevant' to this debate, we look forward to working with President Bush to reauthorize an effective law banning assault weapons.

Barf-o-rama!


960 posted on 04/16/2003 1:34:45 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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