As I Predicted, George W. Bush Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban

Toogood Reports ^ | April 15, 2003 | By Chuck Baldwin

[TERMINATTOR]

He was probably too conservative. This joints turning into a clone of DU, if you hadn't noticed.

Molon Labe!

[Mulder]

He got banned because he wouldn't take any crap from an emotionally distraught female poster who had a bad relationship once, and made it the fault of ALL men.

Here is the thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829398/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

It's a damn shame that someone's sense of humor was bad enough so that they banned him. He was one of favorite posters and certainly the wittiest poster here.

[Marysecretary]

Thanks, Dan, for the information. I appreciate it. Mary

[Marysecretary]

That's a good answer Rytwyng.

[Marysecretary]

I will take everyone's thoughts into consideration. Thanks. Maryxxx

[slowry]

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, AS A LAST RESORT (emphasis mine), to protect themselves against tyranny in government"-Thomas Jefferson

It appears this is incorrectly attributed to Jefferson. See here.

[Marysecretary]

I have No idea. I'm just pondering...

[Marysecretary]

We have coyotes roaming our back lot. I wonder if one got a hold of our cat who disappeared. I've thought about that.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Waco was no big deal.

[Marysecretary]

I never read her stuff, really. I was just wondering why an assault weapon is necessary. I appreciate everyone's point of view on this. Maryxxx

[Uncle Bill]

Bush Favors Extending Assault-Weapons Ban

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4/16/2003
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The Bush administration said it supports renewing the federal assault-weapons ban, despite a push by the National Rifle Association (NRA) to let it expire, the Salt Lake Tribune reported April 12.

"The president supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

The announcement came as a surprise to those on both sides of the gun debate, especially since the NRA has made eliminating the ban a top priority.

"That's lousy politics," said Grover Norquist, an NRA board member who heads the conservative group Americans for Tax Reform.

Joe Sudbay of the Violence Policy Center said the president's pledge to renew the ban "creates a huge problem for Bush with the NRA."

"The NRA said they would be working out of the Oval Office when Bush was elected. This creates an interesting situation for them," he said.

Matt Bennett of Americans for Gun Safety said Bush's endorsement isn't enough. He must press Congress to renew the measure. Not doing so would cause the ban to expire, Bennett said.

Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the NRA, agreed that the issue would "ultimately be decided by the Congress."

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Love, George W. Algore

[Uncle Bill]

The myth of small-government Republicans

[dcwusmc]

No it's not. Though I consider abortion to be murder, which should be dealt with under state criminal laws and NOT an anti-abortion statute or amendment. As I said, RKBA is the BEDROCK OF ALL our rights, for it enables we, the People, to ENFORCE our rights in the last resort. Without it we live at the whim of whomever holds power, as the peasants did in medieval times, when the local "lord" could come over on a bride's wedding night and kick her new husband out of the marriage bed and put himself in it... is that the sort of society you envision?

[Uncle Bill]

Patriot Act To Be Made Permanent?

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning and welcome to the White House. Today, we take an essential step in defeating terrorism, "while protecting the constitutional rights of all Americans"

[Nucluside]

RE quote "incorrectly attributed to Jefferson":

I will definitely research this.

1. What I have researched are the Federalist Papers, and as far as the aims (no pun intended) of the Founding Fathers and U.S. Constitution are concerned, there is no question about what they mean in reference to the Second Amendment.
Anyone who
a. says the Second Amendment relegates weapons ownership to a militia only
b. has not read the Federalist Papers
is arguing from emotion only, and the argument is both wrong and based on ignorance.
2. One of the statements Jim Robinson makes as a "for instance" in his introduction to new members of our forum is that Second Amendment rights are a given and that we will not participate in discussion of gun laws, which have been placed as obstacles in our path to restoration of our basic freedoms, of which one is that, according to the Constitution, gun laws are unconstitutional.
What we will do, however, is oppose all gun laws that don't apply to convicted felons.

[Nucluside]

We have to oppose ALL gun laws. What I'm saying is that I can't believe that this bill will ever clear the Congressional committees, given that Americans have become more "pro-gun" since 911. I agree with rintense and a couple of others that Bush is just posturing to emasculate gun control as a 'Rat issue. I regret the disingenuous nature of that sort of political manuver, but you (presumably) and I are not politicians.
We have to think ahead to '04 and getting more conservatives in congress to outvote the 'Rats and RINOS, the latter which we must try to eliminate in primaries. The more conservatives we get in congress the more conservative Bush can be. This sets the table for Supreme Court nominees, who will decide the real future of our Constitutional rights.
The congress, ultimately, cannot take away our gun rights, but the Supreme Court can if a bunch of 'Rats and/or liberals are nominated.
If the Supreme Court performs the tyrannical act of denying our Second Amendment rights I think the time will have come for armed insurrection.

[Nucluside]

"...I come from...Illinois, where all politicians are liberals..."
I'm not trying to be preachy here, but you guys have to support and elect conservative Republicans in the primaries. If you send liberals to the general elections you will get liberals in public office.
Get organized and take over the party at precinct levels. You can do this if you march in with a bunch of like minded people. Don't try to tell me this is impossible; I've done it! From there you have your organization to build on to elect your conservative candidates in the primaries. Just voting ain't enough. You have to work your a--es off.
When do you start? RIGHT NOW. Most 'Pubs never do anything until a couple of weeks before an election.

[Nucluside]

"Sorry, I'm not falling for that strategy again."

Good point. But don't you agree that it's a little too soon to fold up the tents and vote for Democrats and libertarians, the latter which is also like voting for Democrats?

[Ford Fairlane]

you guys have to support and elect conservative Republicans in the primaries. If you send liberals to the general elections you will get liberals in public office.

I wish it was that easy

Our local county republican party is controlled by a bunch of weasely lawyer types who are only interested in kissing the butts of the next guy up the ladder from them, trying to improve their political careers

A few years back a few of us tried to get involved & were basically told to get lost & leave it to those who understand how the Illinois republican party works (read "Lawyers")

Of course the conservative democrats around here are in a spot just as bad - their party is controlled at the local level by lawyers & union bosses

[Dan from Michigan]

I've been saying that for a LONG time. Glad I'm not the only one.

I'm a precinct delegate and I'm also on the County Exec Committee. This is where the candidates for local offices come from.