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As I Predicted, George W. Bush Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban
Toogood Reports ^ | April 15, 2003 | By Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 04/14/2003 7:45:39 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

Edited on 04/17/2003 6:40:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

As I Predicted, George W. Bush
Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban

TooGood Reports
By Chuck Baldwin
Chuck Baldwin Website
April 15, 2003

In this column dated December 17, 2002, I predicted that President G.W. Bush would support the so-called assault weapons ban first promoted by former President Bill Clinton and Sen. Diane Feinstein back in 1994. Interestingly enough, the gun ban became law on the strength of a tie-breaking vote by then Vice President Al Gore. The ban is scheduled to sunset next year, but Bush is joining Clinton and Gore in supporting an extension.

Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan said, "The president supports the current law (the Clinton gun ban), and he supports reauthorization of the current law."

This must come as quite a blow to people such as the leaders of the National Rifle Association who campaigned heavily for Bush touting him as a "pro-gun" candidate. Since his election, the NRA and others have repeatedly reaffirmed their support for Bush, because he is "pro-gun." Well, now the mask is off!

I have tried to warn my readers that Bush is not a true conservative. He is not pro-life; he is not pro-family; he is not pro-Constitution. And now we know he is not pro-gun.

Instead of reversing the miserable policies of Clinton/Gore, Bush is helping to harden the cement around those policies. The gun issue is no exception.

The so-called assault weapons ban was the benchmark piece of legislation reflecting the anti-gun policies of people such as Clinton, Gore, Feinstein, and New York Senator Charles Schumer. It was also the number one target of the NRA. In fact, the NRA all but promised their supporters that a Bush presidency would help reverse this Draconian gun ban. Instead, Bush is pushing Congress to extend the ban.

A bill to reauthorize the gun ban will be introduced by Senator Feinstein in the coming weeks. It must pass both chambers of Congress to reach the President's desk. The best chance of stopping it will be in the House of Representatives. However, in order to defeat this bill, it must resist the power and influence of the White House. This will be no small task.

Not only is Bush betraying the pro-gun voters who helped elect him, he is breathing new life into a nearly dead anti-gun movement. Most political analysts credit Bush's pro-gun image as the chief reason he defeated Al Gore in the 2000 election. They also credit the pro-gun image of the Republican Party for helping them to achieve impressive wins in the 2002 congressional elections.

Now, Bush is giving new credibility to anti-gun zealots such as Schumer and Feinstein and is helping to reinvigorate the anti-gun momentum that had all but been put on ice.

However, the real question will be, "Will pro-gun conservatives continue to support Bush?" Bush is every bit the "Teflon President" that Clinton was. Conservatives seem willing to overlook anything he does, no matter how liberal or unconstitutional it may be. Will they overlook this, also?

If you truly believe in the Second Amendment and are willing to do something about it, I suggest you go to the Gun Owners of America website. They have a quick link set up which allows people an opportunity to conveniently send email to the White House about this issue. Go to the gun ban "alert" button. From there you can voice your disapproval with the President's decision to betray his constituents by supporting this new round of gun control.

Once again, the ball of freedom and constitutional government is in the court of the American people. Will they keep the ball and do something with it, or will they hand it off to the neo-conservatives at the White House? We'll see.


PLEASE Don't Sit out 2004, EVEN IF Bush signs the AW ban extention

Bush Supports New Extension Of Assault-Weapons Ban

Bush Backs Renewing Assault Weapons Ban



"That’s why I’m for instant background checks at gun shows. I’m for trigger locks."
George W. Bush - Source: St. Louis debate Oct 17,2000.

MORE INJUSTICE ON THE WAY - Bush GUN CONTROL
"Gene Healy, a Cato Institute scholar, recently provided a thorough exploration of the unintended consequences of one law, the new Bush-Ashcroft plan to federalize gun crimes, known as the Project Safe Neighborhoods program. The unintended consequences of this law are frightening."
NOTE: Same Article in Washington Times.

There Goes the Neighborhood: The Bush-Ashcroft Plan to "Help" Localities Fight Gun Crime, by Gene Healy

"W. Wimps Out on Guns"
The Bush package includes several pet causes of the gun-control lobby, including $75 million for gun locks; $15.3 million for 113 new federal attorneys to serve as full-time gun prosecutors; and $19.1 million to expand a program by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms aimed at preventing youths from obtaining guns. Although Bush stressed that he simply wants to "enforce existing laws," the fine print of Project Safe echoes the gun-grabbing Left's call to ban the importation of high-capacity ammunition clips."

Project Safe Neighborhoods, A Closer Look

LAURA BUSH:
"During her San Diego speech, for instance, she said nothing about the school shooting that occurred 20 miles away in El Cajon the day before, although in a television interview she condemned it, adding that she thinks more gun control laws are needed.

"I think that's very important," she said when asked by CNN whether stronger gun laws are needed."
Source.

EMERSON & THE SECOND AMENDMENT

A Gutless Supreme Court Decision - Gun Control

Republican Leadership Help Push Gun Control

Bush's Assault On Second Amendment

NEA Resource Text Guide In Regards To The Extreme Right - Where Do Your Kids Go To School?
"The radical right says it is pro-life but it bitterly opposes gun control legislation"

or

A Problem With Guns?


Thanks for that Patriot Act George


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; bang; banglist; bush; guns; secondamendment
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Must be pretty hefty purses they carry to hold their AK47's in!"


Sometimes a purse and a handgun just aren't enough when it comes to our government.

The Assassination of Ron Brown

The Corrupt Investigation of Ron Brown and the Following Coverup

REVEALED: GUN LOST ON FATAL RON BROWN FLIGHT

THE SECRET FILES OF RON BROWN - Ira Sockowitz

"Anytime you have a circular, symmetrical hole, a pathologist knows that one of the distinct mechanisms for making such a defect is a bullet. It's not even arguable in the field of medical legal investigations whether an autopsy should have been conducted on Brown, I'll wager you anything that you can't find a forensic pathologist in America who will say Brown should not have been autopsied. Forget about Brown being a cabinet member, or being under investigation. He was in a plane crash. That alone should have meant he was autopsied."
Coroner Cyril Wecht - One of the nation's most prominent forensic pathologists. Source

THE DEATH OF BARBARA ALICE WISE

CIA Documents on Ron Brown Declared Secret

Witness in Brown Case May Have Been Murdered

The Strange Death of Ron Miller

Anthrax Death in Oklahoma? - Ron Miller

Oklahoma Natural Gas Overcharges Tied to Clinton White House - Ron Miller

Hillary's Oklahoma scandal - Ron Miller


GOVERNMENT TERRORISM - From Ruby Ridge To Waco And Beyond

841 posted on 04/15/2003 9:18:25 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
Ho hum. Get a life.
842 posted on 04/15/2003 9:21:45 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
Good question. You don't. Criminals lie, but I do not favor the idea that all transfers should go through feds. To some extent, I really believe the system is self policing. For example, a heavily tatooed biker type comes over to buy my handgun...I might insist that he provide me a copy of his driver's license. If he does, then ok. If not then I probably will not sell it to him.
843 posted on 04/15/2003 9:22:43 PM PDT by Jesse
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To: Cultural Jihad
Oh, I have a great one. Many have lost theirs though, because of our government. Worse yet, nobody was held to account and the rule of law has been trashed and thrown out. We're in the American movingonian era.
844 posted on 04/15/2003 9:25:17 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Jesse
still waiting....
845 posted on 04/15/2003 9:25:26 PM PDT by Jesse
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To: Uncle Bill

"Come to Ethiopia: the Viagraless utopia!"
846 posted on 04/15/2003 9:29:10 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
You are such a petty annie that you've isolated yourself again.
847 posted on 04/15/2003 9:29:28 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Cultural Jihad
Must be pretty hefty purses they carry to hold their AK47's in!

Once again, not a correct example of an illegal assault weapon. Do you realize that you are a great example of why we cant allow the "assault weapon" ban to stand? All of you that try to defend it refer to something along the lines of an actual machine gun or just kinda slip off into high explosives while not knowing what the ban actually does.

Semi autos are thrown in with machine guns and grenade launchers thanks to this title and people's inability to think for themselves.

848 posted on 04/15/2003 9:31:58 PM PDT by PuNcH
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To: Fred Mertz
Hi Fred. Hope all is well.

GOP - Waco No Big Deal - Fox News

849 posted on 04/15/2003 9:34:17 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: B Knotts
Failure to communicate.

I was really writing about the ones now who are saying they won't vote for him.

According to your post, you're not one of those people. The post was aimed at the ones now who aren't saying a thing about fighting. They are saying because of this stance now, they won't vote for him.

I have no doubt in my mind that if it never reaches his desk, they will still say that he had every intention of signing it.

I do know there are a lot people mad enough that they are really going to fight this thing. I also know there are too many people who would rather bitch and moan and do nothing.
850 posted on 04/15/2003 9:34:36 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: diamond6
...it is obvious to me that we can all be conservatives and disagree on this one issue. I think there are a lot more issues that have more of a priority than this one. If this is the more important issue to any of the people on this thread, then I question their priorities.

Agreed.

I was just scrolling the beginning of this thread trying to learn why exactly this issue is of such importance to fellow FReepers that they'd use it as a "litmus test" and reason to vote against President Bush.

As many of the posts did seem rather hostile, I found your questions brave and thought-provoking. And while I didn't scroll through all the answers, I think now I understand to some degree the other side of the argument.

FRegards,
k2

851 posted on 04/15/2003 10:05:56 PM PDT by k2blader ("Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Yeah, but he has a great personality.
852 posted on 04/15/2003 10:14:56 PM PDT by Deb (Democrats stole my green sweater.)
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To: k2blader
diamond6

You should drain your bladder.

853 posted on 04/15/2003 10:18:33 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
diamond6

You should drain your bladder.

What does that mean?

854 posted on 04/15/2003 10:24:51 PM PDT by k2blader ("Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: k2blader
I was just scrolling the beginning of this thread trying to learn why exactly this issue is of such importance to fellow FReepers that they'd use it as a "litmus test" and reason to vote against President Bush.

The Constitution isn't a "litmus test"; it enshrines the essential qualifications of the President, who takes an oath to defend it. If you think there are more important priorities for your candidate than to obey his oath of office to uphold the Constitution, then you're not really a conservative, and you're posting on the wrong web site.

855 posted on 04/15/2003 10:30:59 PM PDT by Technogeeb
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To: k2blader
A person tends to get a little upset when their hobby suddenly starts to cost over two thousand dollars more because of the governemt. I shoot High Power rifle. It's a sport and the rules make you use a semi-automatic rifle called a service rifle. You never heard of this sport even though millions of people participate in it because the media does not advertise it.

By the way, this Assault Weapons ban will not be overturned in California. Your buddy still won't be able to have one unless he wants to be a felon. I'm only asking that I can continue unabaded in my sport.

P.S. My brother in law lives in a town where it's illegal to ever own a handgun and he went to jail because the cops were told he had one in his sock drawer.
856 posted on 04/15/2003 10:33:25 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Nucluside
unload our full political fury when it will count!

I guess we should have done that after the 5000th gun law.......

857 posted on 04/15/2003 10:35:05 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Cultural Jihad
It's ludicrous to expect any pity for those who whine because they can't buy armour-piercing ammo, or who pine for bazookas in case the dog-catchers make too many demands upon the hapless and helpless populace.

Have you ever read the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban? It has nothing to do with bazookas or armor piercing ammunition. It bans rifles that have two or more of the following features:

a flash hider (flash hiders keep you from being blinded by muzzle flash), bayonets, folding stocks, pistol grips and magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

These laws are only a step toward banning more privately owned firearms in America. The next step will be to ban other firearms that have some type of feature someone doesn't like. A barrel that is too short, a rifle that is too accurate, a handgun that is too black, a firearm that looks too scary and on and on. Eventually there will be almost nothing you can own because their are so many restrictions on firearms.

I don't want to institute a system where the weak and elderly are at the mercy of the strong, the lone are at the mercy of the gang. If you want to give violent criminals a government guarantee that citizens are disarmed, sorry, that's unacceptable. Over 750,000 Americans use firearms every year to protect defend themselves. Feel good gun control laws do nothing but only disarm peaceful citizens.


858 posted on 04/15/2003 10:36:02 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: Uncle Bill
The gop really said Waco was no big deal.

Disgusting!
859 posted on 04/15/2003 10:38:33 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth.....)
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To: Technogeeb
Label me whatever your little heart desires.

860 posted on 04/15/2003 10:40:36 PM PDT by k2blader ("Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful." - C. S. Lewis)
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