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As I Predicted, George W. Bush Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban
Toogood Reports ^ | April 15, 2003 | By Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 04/14/2003 7:45:39 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

Edited on 04/17/2003 6:40:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

As I Predicted, George W. Bush
Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban

TooGood Reports
By Chuck Baldwin
Chuck Baldwin Website
April 15, 2003

In this column dated December 17, 2002, I predicted that President G.W. Bush would support the so-called assault weapons ban first promoted by former President Bill Clinton and Sen. Diane Feinstein back in 1994. Interestingly enough, the gun ban became law on the strength of a tie-breaking vote by then Vice President Al Gore. The ban is scheduled to sunset next year, but Bush is joining Clinton and Gore in supporting an extension.

Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan said, "The president supports the current law (the Clinton gun ban), and he supports reauthorization of the current law."

This must come as quite a blow to people such as the leaders of the National Rifle Association who campaigned heavily for Bush touting him as a "pro-gun" candidate. Since his election, the NRA and others have repeatedly reaffirmed their support for Bush, because he is "pro-gun." Well, now the mask is off!

I have tried to warn my readers that Bush is not a true conservative. He is not pro-life; he is not pro-family; he is not pro-Constitution. And now we know he is not pro-gun.

Instead of reversing the miserable policies of Clinton/Gore, Bush is helping to harden the cement around those policies. The gun issue is no exception.

The so-called assault weapons ban was the benchmark piece of legislation reflecting the anti-gun policies of people such as Clinton, Gore, Feinstein, and New York Senator Charles Schumer. It was also the number one target of the NRA. In fact, the NRA all but promised their supporters that a Bush presidency would help reverse this Draconian gun ban. Instead, Bush is pushing Congress to extend the ban.

A bill to reauthorize the gun ban will be introduced by Senator Feinstein in the coming weeks. It must pass both chambers of Congress to reach the President's desk. The best chance of stopping it will be in the House of Representatives. However, in order to defeat this bill, it must resist the power and influence of the White House. This will be no small task.

Not only is Bush betraying the pro-gun voters who helped elect him, he is breathing new life into a nearly dead anti-gun movement. Most political analysts credit Bush's pro-gun image as the chief reason he defeated Al Gore in the 2000 election. They also credit the pro-gun image of the Republican Party for helping them to achieve impressive wins in the 2002 congressional elections.

Now, Bush is giving new credibility to anti-gun zealots such as Schumer and Feinstein and is helping to reinvigorate the anti-gun momentum that had all but been put on ice.

However, the real question will be, "Will pro-gun conservatives continue to support Bush?" Bush is every bit the "Teflon President" that Clinton was. Conservatives seem willing to overlook anything he does, no matter how liberal or unconstitutional it may be. Will they overlook this, also?

If you truly believe in the Second Amendment and are willing to do something about it, I suggest you go to the Gun Owners of America website. They have a quick link set up which allows people an opportunity to conveniently send email to the White House about this issue. Go to the gun ban "alert" button. From there you can voice your disapproval with the President's decision to betray his constituents by supporting this new round of gun control.

Once again, the ball of freedom and constitutional government is in the court of the American people. Will they keep the ball and do something with it, or will they hand it off to the neo-conservatives at the White House? We'll see.


PLEASE Don't Sit out 2004, EVEN IF Bush signs the AW ban extention

Bush Supports New Extension Of Assault-Weapons Ban

Bush Backs Renewing Assault Weapons Ban



"That’s why I’m for instant background checks at gun shows. I’m for trigger locks."
George W. Bush - Source: St. Louis debate Oct 17,2000.

MORE INJUSTICE ON THE WAY - Bush GUN CONTROL
"Gene Healy, a Cato Institute scholar, recently provided a thorough exploration of the unintended consequences of one law, the new Bush-Ashcroft plan to federalize gun crimes, known as the Project Safe Neighborhoods program. The unintended consequences of this law are frightening."
NOTE: Same Article in Washington Times.

There Goes the Neighborhood: The Bush-Ashcroft Plan to "Help" Localities Fight Gun Crime, by Gene Healy

"W. Wimps Out on Guns"
The Bush package includes several pet causes of the gun-control lobby, including $75 million for gun locks; $15.3 million for 113 new federal attorneys to serve as full-time gun prosecutors; and $19.1 million to expand a program by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms aimed at preventing youths from obtaining guns. Although Bush stressed that he simply wants to "enforce existing laws," the fine print of Project Safe echoes the gun-grabbing Left's call to ban the importation of high-capacity ammunition clips."

Project Safe Neighborhoods, A Closer Look

LAURA BUSH:
"During her San Diego speech, for instance, she said nothing about the school shooting that occurred 20 miles away in El Cajon the day before, although in a television interview she condemned it, adding that she thinks more gun control laws are needed.

"I think that's very important," she said when asked by CNN whether stronger gun laws are needed."
Source.

EMERSON & THE SECOND AMENDMENT

A Gutless Supreme Court Decision - Gun Control

Republican Leadership Help Push Gun Control

Bush's Assault On Second Amendment

NEA Resource Text Guide In Regards To The Extreme Right - Where Do Your Kids Go To School?
"The radical right says it is pro-life but it bitterly opposes gun control legislation"

or

A Problem With Guns?


Thanks for that Patriot Act George


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; bang; banglist; bush; guns; secondamendment
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To: PuNcH
Someone who rails against illegal immigration because it is law-breaking has no business claiming that breaking the laws against ownership of illegal assault weapons is somehow law-abiding just because they don't rob a convenience store. The vast majority of undocumented aliens don't rob convenience stores, either.
521 posted on 04/15/2003 12:10:34 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
much like your beloved boogeymen in brown skin who choose to cross the border without governmental permission.

Ahhh race baiting and a disregard for the rule of law and the will of the people. Now what is wrong with owning an illegal weapon again?

522 posted on 04/15/2003 12:10:38 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: Uncle Bill
bump
523 posted on 04/15/2003 12:11:25 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
The only thing voting Libertarian or abstaining does is get us another f'ng democrat in the White House.

Interesting, since thousands of gun laws have been incrementally enacted for the past 30 years or so, during both Republican and Democratic administrations.

524 posted on 04/15/2003 12:11:27 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: PuNcH
You want to know what is wrong with owning an illegal weapon while claiming that illegal aliens have a disregard for the law? An interesting mental disconnect there.
525 posted on 04/15/2003 12:12:49 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
Then you're an idiot. The only thing voting Libertarian or abstaining does is get us another f'ng democrat in the White House.

darn, looks like Bush should forget about banning guns eh?

526 posted on 04/15/2003 12:14:08 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Here's a tough one for you, Jose: An undocumented economic refugee who owns an illegal assault weapon!
527 posted on 04/15/2003 12:15:23 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Ramius
"So why don't we allow people to own hand grenades, bombs, or nuclear weapons? Is there any limit to what should be allowed?
Those things are "Ordinance". They are not "Arms". The writers of the bill of rights knew the difference then, too."

Well I seriously doubt it, as none of these existed in 1779.
Neither did assault weapons or machine guns.


528 posted on 04/15/2003 12:15:34 AM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: Dane
See, politics transcends more than one issue, but you can focus on your one issue and help the Hillary's and Schumer's of the world or try to understand modern American politics and the current machinations of the legislative branch.

Don't lecture me about the process. I work in the business. I know modern politics. I also know there's more than one issue out there, but this is the issue that brought me into politics in the first place.

The first thing I learned was to never underestimate an enemy. I don't assume anything. I don't know if the house is going to kill this. I hope so, and Bush is probably banking on this as well, but none of us KNOW that will happen. We may THINK it will happen.

I don't know what Gore would have done, nor care since it doesn't matter. I didn't vote for him(and I did vote for Bush), and I'm glad he's not there.

529 posted on 04/15/2003 12:15:38 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Someone who rails against illegal immigration because it is law-breaking has no business claiming that breaking the laws against ownership of illegal assault weapons is somehow law-abiding just because they don't rob a convenience store.

Funny, your the only one that suggested this. Again, the context of my postings reads clear, go back and look.

Just for you, and the record, it is my position and many others here, that when someone commits a crime with a gun, the government should go after the criminal, instead of forcing more gun laws on law abiding citizens.

Is there something you don't understand about this?

530 posted on 04/15/2003 12:17:44 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Cultural Jihad
Someone who rails against illegal immigration because it is law-breaking has no business claiming that breaking the laws against ownership of illegal assault weapons is somehow law-abiding just because they don't rob a convenience store.

A citizen has the right to stand up against what they believe is an unconstitutional law. We have inalienable rights.

Illegal immigration and a multi-billion dollar drug smuggling spree across our border in no way compares.

531 posted on 04/15/2003 12:18:07 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: Cultural Jihad
What is an example of an illegal assault weapon?
532 posted on 04/15/2003 12:18:52 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: Brett66
I've read that he's giving lip service to this while knowing that Tom Delay will nuke it. That's the political calculation.

'Read my lips, no new taxes gun laws'.

533 posted on 04/15/2003 12:18:53 AM PDT by lewislynn
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To: Dan from Michigan
BTW - For the record. In any of these threads on this topic, I didn't say I was going to vote for Bush in 04, nor did I say I wasn't going to vote for Bush.
534 posted on 04/15/2003 12:20:48 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
So anyone (including illegal Irish immigrants!) may carry C4 plastic explosives in their sneakers while flying in an airliner, just so long as they don't commit a crime with it, eh? Thanks but no thanks for such half-baked ideas.
535 posted on 04/15/2003 12:23:02 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Uncle Bill
As I said in an earlier post. If this President were to sign a piece of legislation making that ban permanent OR extending the life of it, I will refuse to vote for him on Election day. His Oath of office transcends any promise made in an election cycle. If he does sign it, he has effectively broken the oath he took to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States

I took a similar Oath and I will not break that oath to vote for a Republican President merely because he's a Republican.

Semper Fi
536 posted on 04/15/2003 12:23:27 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Another Marine Reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell)
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To: omegatoo
"The only way I could ever envision them being used against people is to defend the Constitution against all her enemies."
Four students shot, one killed, at New Orleans high school

What difference does it make what kind of gun was used? There were 4 suspects. Even with a one-shot-each shotgun, there could have been the same number of casualties. With a machine gun there could have been hundreds.
It doesn't matter what kind of guns they ban. The people that want to kill in high numbers will find a way to do so.

537 posted on 04/15/2003 12:24:18 AM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: omegatoo
bump .... thanks for that list.
538 posted on 04/15/2003 12:25:41 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: Cultural Jihad
C-4 plastic explosives? LOL!

Were talking about semi automatic rifles here. WTF are you talking about?

539 posted on 04/15/2003 12:25:49 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: bybybill
When there is a REAL difference between Republicans and Democrats then your comment holds water. But as long as we get the same thing from EVERY president regardless of Party, then your comment holds NO water.
540 posted on 04/15/2003 12:26:27 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Another Marine Reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell)
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