As I Predicted, George W. Bush Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban

Toogood Reports ^ | April 15, 2003 | By Chuck Baldwin

[diamond6]

That's an interesting statistic. How sure are you that the colonies only had 3 million people? I don't even know what HCI is. I would cut out the labelling.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I have witnessed nationwide lawlessness created by an invasion of millions of illegal aliens...

Ho hum. Johnny-One-Note can't address an issue without mentioning the brown-skinned economic refugees he loves to obsess over.

Oh, you forgot to quote my entire post comrade. Here, I'll help you out....

I have witnessed nationwide lawlessness created by an invasion of millions of illegal aliens while President Bush and the rest of our so-called leaders, stand by and watch this epic crisis continue to escalate, at the same time our second amendment is being chipped away incrementally, one small step, one law, one regulation at a time. After thousands of gun laws, and more being considered daily, I think the goals of government are inordinately clear regarding our second amendment and other issues regarding our very sovereignty.

[budwiesest]

Read my Clips?

[Sandy]

We're a long way from banning rifles

You really have no idea what you're talking about. "Assault Weapons" are rifles.

[alphadog]

"Ho hum. Johnny-One-Note can't address an issue without mentioning the brown-skinned economic refugees he loves to obsess over."

So sound just like a racist I know...I Have your "Cultural Jihad" right here...You are really funny.

[Joe Hadenuf]

LOL!

[Dec31,1999]

You've been around long enough. Use your imagination. How would you do it?

To answer your question, though, I would say that what we have been already doing is an excellent start. Education, truly alternative media, such as Fox News Channel, Freerepublic.com, word of mouth, Freep rallies, etc. The tide really is turning, but we must be ever-vigilant!

As far as this specific issue is concerned, I encourage all Freepers and Conservatives to take back the educational system in this country. Get a teaching job and educate.

After all, why should some idiot scum-sucking socialist collect all that money and benefits and not one of us? Do what they did; INFILTRATE.

[Jeff Head]

When a modern army is surrounded by 80 million people who are well armed and PO'ed ... there are no front lines ... there are no logistics ... there are no places for those people who maintain the gunships and tanks, the people who fuel them, or the people who drive them to find safe haven ... particularly when it's some of their own they are up against. Force readiness ... moral ... and loyalty starts to deteriorate in such circumstances.

God forbid it ever comes to that.

Clearly, faced with an enemy army to defeat ... our forces are unstoppable. but, if 50,000 or 100,000 are surrounded on all sides by 80,000,000 who are well armed (as opposed to a few thousand) ... then it gets to looking like Fort Apache pretty quick.

Sure, a suicidal attack against a Cobra, or Apache or Abrams will not work. But that is not the type of fighting we are talking about. Listen to Travis McGee. His bonafides are without question ... he's been there in the teams and knows what he's talking about.

My bet is on the side with 15,000,000 sniper rifles and the will to use them despite loss if push comes to shove.

[Joe Hadenuf]

And compound that scenario with literally millions that look just like the other side....The confusion and chaos would be unbeatable....

[PuNcH]

Ho hum. Johnny-One-Note can't address an issue without mentioning the brown-skinned economic refugees he loves to obsess over.

You mean illegal aliens. Dont be a nazi.

The constitution and the rule of law is not a one note.

[PuNcH]

I have witnessed nationwide lawlessness created by an invasion of millions of illegal aliens while President Bush and the rest of our so-called leaders, stand by and watch this epic crisis continue to escalate, at the same time our second amendment is being chipped away incrementally, one small step, one law, one regulation at a time.

The invasion helps keep the crime rate up and gang activity as well. As they shoot eachother, politicians get the ammo they need to ban guns.

[Dan from Michigan]

HCI - Handgun Control, Incorporated.

I couldn't find colonial. Closest I found was 1800 - 5308483

That's still one out of 8-9 people.

[Dec31,1999]

I don't know. It seems to me that you are ignoring women voters, who will vote anti-gun rights hands down IMO. I don't really believe what you say is true , although I'm sure of your sincerity. Nonetheless, and it coud be a close call, I believe that the majority of Americans believe the anti-RTKBA rhetoric.

And I really can't see Democrats of any type voting for pro-gun Rpublicans, but this info is anecdotal. After all, I live in the "Blue country", where my votes are irrelevant, anyway.

I still think my previous posts are essentially correct.

Time will tell.

Freegards, D31.

[Joe Hadenuf]

And instead of going after the problems and the law breakers, the government focuses on law abiding citizens....

[Kenno]

Listen, I love Fox News, but on this issue they're pretty weak. Bill O'Reilly is on record in favor of gun control, and Tony Snow has seemed amenable to it in the past.

Since you bring the subject up, though, it couldn't hurt for millions of gun owners, starting here at FR, to e-mail Fox insisting that they report this story. So far, I haven't heard a peep.

[Dan from Michigan]

And I really can't see Democrats of any type voting for pro-gun Rpublicans, but this info is anecdotal. After all, I live in the "Blue country", where my votes are irrelevant, anyway.

Bush won the heavily democratic UP of Michigan, as well as West Virginia.

[Dane]

His(Chuck Baldwin) PCP-addled mind has already come up with some psychotic theories that Bush is trying to take over the world, so his support for getting rid of this tyrannical law hurts our case by making us all seem to be wackos like him

Chuck Baldwin, has a simliar, small, but vocal audience here on FR, where they knee jerkingky scream, "I have been betrayed, might as well have Hillary as President, blah, blah, blah." They must like living in the dark, where a Hillary presidency would give you a Schumer Justice Dept. and a Cuomo as Chief Justice.

[Kenno]

Actually he lost Michigan, but the point is valid nevertheless. Michigan's Democrat gun owners were undecided until late in the campaign, forcing Gore to waste time there instead of in the border states.

[Dane]

The invasion helps keep the crime rate up and gang activity as well.

Huh, did you check out reply #447 of this thread. I guess not. Ashcroft came up with a proposal to help abate illegal immigration and terrorism and not a peep of support from your malcontnent crowd.

[Dan from Michigan]

I know he lost Michigan, mainly since Detroit City and Flint has a massive turnout, but he won the UP.