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As I Predicted, George W. Bush Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban
Toogood Reports ^ | April 15, 2003 | By Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 04/14/2003 7:45:39 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

Edited on 04/17/2003 6:40:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

As I Predicted, George W. Bush
Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban

TooGood Reports
By Chuck Baldwin
Chuck Baldwin Website
April 15, 2003

In this column dated December 17, 2002, I predicted that President G.W. Bush would support the so-called assault weapons ban first promoted by former President Bill Clinton and Sen. Diane Feinstein back in 1994. Interestingly enough, the gun ban became law on the strength of a tie-breaking vote by then Vice President Al Gore. The ban is scheduled to sunset next year, but Bush is joining Clinton and Gore in supporting an extension.

Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan said, "The president supports the current law (the Clinton gun ban), and he supports reauthorization of the current law."

This must come as quite a blow to people such as the leaders of the National Rifle Association who campaigned heavily for Bush touting him as a "pro-gun" candidate. Since his election, the NRA and others have repeatedly reaffirmed their support for Bush, because he is "pro-gun." Well, now the mask is off!

I have tried to warn my readers that Bush is not a true conservative. He is not pro-life; he is not pro-family; he is not pro-Constitution. And now we know he is not pro-gun.

Instead of reversing the miserable policies of Clinton/Gore, Bush is helping to harden the cement around those policies. The gun issue is no exception.

The so-called assault weapons ban was the benchmark piece of legislation reflecting the anti-gun policies of people such as Clinton, Gore, Feinstein, and New York Senator Charles Schumer. It was also the number one target of the NRA. In fact, the NRA all but promised their supporters that a Bush presidency would help reverse this Draconian gun ban. Instead, Bush is pushing Congress to extend the ban.

A bill to reauthorize the gun ban will be introduced by Senator Feinstein in the coming weeks. It must pass both chambers of Congress to reach the President's desk. The best chance of stopping it will be in the House of Representatives. However, in order to defeat this bill, it must resist the power and influence of the White House. This will be no small task.

Not only is Bush betraying the pro-gun voters who helped elect him, he is breathing new life into a nearly dead anti-gun movement. Most political analysts credit Bush's pro-gun image as the chief reason he defeated Al Gore in the 2000 election. They also credit the pro-gun image of the Republican Party for helping them to achieve impressive wins in the 2002 congressional elections.

Now, Bush is giving new credibility to anti-gun zealots such as Schumer and Feinstein and is helping to reinvigorate the anti-gun momentum that had all but been put on ice.

However, the real question will be, "Will pro-gun conservatives continue to support Bush?" Bush is every bit the "Teflon President" that Clinton was. Conservatives seem willing to overlook anything he does, no matter how liberal or unconstitutional it may be. Will they overlook this, also?

If you truly believe in the Second Amendment and are willing to do something about it, I suggest you go to the Gun Owners of America website. They have a quick link set up which allows people an opportunity to conveniently send email to the White House about this issue. Go to the gun ban "alert" button. From there you can voice your disapproval with the President's decision to betray his constituents by supporting this new round of gun control.

Once again, the ball of freedom and constitutional government is in the court of the American people. Will they keep the ball and do something with it, or will they hand it off to the neo-conservatives at the White House? We'll see.


PLEASE Don't Sit out 2004, EVEN IF Bush signs the AW ban extention

Bush Supports New Extension Of Assault-Weapons Ban

Bush Backs Renewing Assault Weapons Ban



"That’s why I’m for instant background checks at gun shows. I’m for trigger locks."
George W. Bush - Source: St. Louis debate Oct 17,2000.

MORE INJUSTICE ON THE WAY - Bush GUN CONTROL
"Gene Healy, a Cato Institute scholar, recently provided a thorough exploration of the unintended consequences of one law, the new Bush-Ashcroft plan to federalize gun crimes, known as the Project Safe Neighborhoods program. The unintended consequences of this law are frightening."
NOTE: Same Article in Washington Times.

There Goes the Neighborhood: The Bush-Ashcroft Plan to "Help" Localities Fight Gun Crime, by Gene Healy

"W. Wimps Out on Guns"
The Bush package includes several pet causes of the gun-control lobby, including $75 million for gun locks; $15.3 million for 113 new federal attorneys to serve as full-time gun prosecutors; and $19.1 million to expand a program by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms aimed at preventing youths from obtaining guns. Although Bush stressed that he simply wants to "enforce existing laws," the fine print of Project Safe echoes the gun-grabbing Left's call to ban the importation of high-capacity ammunition clips."

Project Safe Neighborhoods, A Closer Look

LAURA BUSH:
"During her San Diego speech, for instance, she said nothing about the school shooting that occurred 20 miles away in El Cajon the day before, although in a television interview she condemned it, adding that she thinks more gun control laws are needed.

"I think that's very important," she said when asked by CNN whether stronger gun laws are needed."
Source.

EMERSON & THE SECOND AMENDMENT

A Gutless Supreme Court Decision - Gun Control

Republican Leadership Help Push Gun Control

Bush's Assault On Second Amendment

NEA Resource Text Guide In Regards To The Extreme Right - Where Do Your Kids Go To School?
"The radical right says it is pro-life but it bitterly opposes gun control legislation"

or

A Problem With Guns?


Thanks for that Patriot Act George


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; bang; banglist; bush; guns; secondamendment
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To: wardaddy
Well, you know...we can't have "the people" running around with these "assault books." Obviously, the First Amendment was really about the right of the states to write things about the federal government. :-)
401 posted on 04/14/2003 10:24:22 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Mulder
Well, I suppose it seems possible. And Bush has proven to be quite the fox. But still, my uninformed gut simply says this bill stays exactly where it is. Love to see it otherwise. Would make some great ammo go use against my soon-to-be disarmed state of Illinois.
402 posted on 04/14/2003 10:24:41 PM PDT by OOPisforLiberals
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To: diamond6
, , , why people should own assault weapons? .

It has always been my position that we should be able to own any weapon that might be used against us. That gets us to flame throwers and tanks (Waco).

403 posted on 04/14/2003 10:24:45 PM PDT by Diddley (Dead, wounded, hidden, or escaped, Saddam is “As good as dead!”)
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To: Dan from Michigan
1. Meant US Code as well as Federalist papers.
404 posted on 04/14/2003 10:25:17 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Deb
Anyone who really cared about the issue would want to change the president's mind, not smear him by tying him to Clinton. That's classic Demorcat dirty trickery

I have done none of that. I have expressed concern and resolve to impact them prior to the expiration date and continue to advocate strongly that we vote for W et al because we have no choice. If the White House comes out and squashes this story fine...please ping me but I see no political magic on W and Rove's part letting this story run unopposed especially after Ashcroft said essentially the opposite just 2 months ago.

405 posted on 04/14/2003 10:25:23 PM PDT by wardaddy (Hootie to head EEOC...)
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To: Mulder
Oh geeeez, where to begin??? Thanks for the ping.
406 posted on 04/14/2003 10:25:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: PuNcH
Clinton won because of "read my lips" and a 1989 gun ban by Bush from out of the blue.

You are right, and for Bush to break his campaign promise to "support existing gun law" would give the Dems all the ammo they need to compare him to Daddy.

Let the House kill this ban.

407 posted on 04/14/2003 10:25:30 PM PDT by ez (...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.)
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To: wardaddy
Of course it hasn't thought out what differs from an individual and a government...
408 posted on 04/14/2003 10:25:30 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Deb
He supports the "AW". That's real soft. The only reason I didn't call him an anti was because of the UN Small arms stuff.
409 posted on 04/14/2003 10:26:50 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: ApesForEvolution
No problem. I could always change my name to "M-14" to make sure that everyone knows where I stand. Man, I would like to have a M-14...
410 posted on 04/14/2003 10:27:10 PM PDT by Mini-14
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To: okiesap
Lots of criminals have rights that supercede the rights of victims that they harm. I'm not thrilled about the interpretations of the rights we have when those interpretations end up allowing guilty people go free, when there's no question they should be convicted.
411 posted on 04/14/2003 10:27:12 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Uncle Bill
didn't we go through this with the ballistics database back during the sniper thing? bush gave it lip service, then dropped it entirely, and no one noticed.

i predict he does the same with the AWB. having studied his father's loss, he knows a little something about pissing off your base.

bush is being clintonesque, in that he's giving lip service to an idea he doesn't believe in for a second.
412 posted on 04/14/2003 10:27:21 PM PDT by Nayt2 (this must be new)
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To: Diddley
"That gets us to flame throwers and tanks (Waco). "


Either you are seriously misinformed, or deliberately misleading.

When exactly were flame throwers used at Waco?
413 posted on 04/14/2003 10:27:30 PM PDT by frostbit (Non Sibi, sed Patriae. "Not self, but country.")
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To: Deb
So, are you going to wait the year and a half for this bill to come up for renewal before you put that foot down? Funny how the usual folks display the usual indignation when provoked by the usual BS.

BS? Don't step in it Debbie.

I have witnessed nationwide lawlessness created by an invasion of millions of illegal aliens while President Bush and the rest of our so-called leaders, stand by and watch this epic crisis continue to escalate, at the same time our second amendment is being chipped away incrementally, one small step, one law, one regulation at a time.

After thousands of gun laws, and more being considered daily, I think the goals of government are inordinately clear regarding our second amendment and other issues regarding our very sovereignty.

This are real issues Debbie, and it's really happening, even if you neglected to notice..

414 posted on 04/14/2003 10:27:43 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Dan from Michigan
Bush is going to lose these same 13 voters who show up on every gun related thread to profess they're leaving the party. 13 voters? Try 4-5 million in the NRA, 500,000 in SAF, the members of GOA, and all the non members who vote their guns. No Dan. I am the NRA and the GOA. Most of my friends are also. We'll be voting for George because we're pragmatic. Your 4-5 million number includes me and my friends. My 13 number includes you baker's dozen of absolutists. (at least 8 of whom didn't vote for Bush the first time anyway). Peace
415 posted on 04/14/2003 10:27:49 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: diamond6
"Then why do we have laws?"

We should have a law against murder. That way, it would never happen again. Man, keep going. You're funny. In a sick way...
416 posted on 04/14/2003 10:28:27 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Mini-14
M1A's a fine firearm.

Of course, if this Sb.1195 goes through, Springfield Armory is SOL and will have to leave the state. Sigh...
417 posted on 04/14/2003 10:28:36 PM PDT by OOPisforLiberals
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To: ez
Dont forget George Sr. allowed ATF to in essence outlaw a lot of previously legal stuff thru bureacratic means
418 posted on 04/14/2003 10:28:47 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: Deb
The following is straight from W's spokesman's mouth. Are you saying it was unauthorized? W is not Clinton. He does not parse nor play poll testing to my knowledge. This was a shot across the NRA's bow and a broadside to the GOA.

"The president supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told Knight Ridder.

Not an anonymous quote from a staffer. Why they wish to agitate their base right now beats me unless this is in fact their policy.

419 posted on 04/14/2003 10:29:45 PM PDT by wardaddy (Hootie to head EEOC...)
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To: Mini-14
The Mini-14 is a great firearm. Seems to overheat easily, but, yes, the M-14 is a classic.
420 posted on 04/14/2003 10:30:45 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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