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As I Predicted, George W. Bush Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban
Toogood Reports ^ | April 15, 2003 | By Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 04/14/2003 7:45:39 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

Edited on 04/17/2003 6:40:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

As I Predicted, George W. Bush
Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban

TooGood Reports
By Chuck Baldwin
Chuck Baldwin Website
April 15, 2003

In this column dated December 17, 2002, I predicted that President G.W. Bush would support the so-called assault weapons ban first promoted by former President Bill Clinton and Sen. Diane Feinstein back in 1994. Interestingly enough, the gun ban became law on the strength of a tie-breaking vote by then Vice President Al Gore. The ban is scheduled to sunset next year, but Bush is joining Clinton and Gore in supporting an extension.

Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan said, "The president supports the current law (the Clinton gun ban), and he supports reauthorization of the current law."

This must come as quite a blow to people such as the leaders of the National Rifle Association who campaigned heavily for Bush touting him as a "pro-gun" candidate. Since his election, the NRA and others have repeatedly reaffirmed their support for Bush, because he is "pro-gun." Well, now the mask is off!

I have tried to warn my readers that Bush is not a true conservative. He is not pro-life; he is not pro-family; he is not pro-Constitution. And now we know he is not pro-gun.

Instead of reversing the miserable policies of Clinton/Gore, Bush is helping to harden the cement around those policies. The gun issue is no exception.

The so-called assault weapons ban was the benchmark piece of legislation reflecting the anti-gun policies of people such as Clinton, Gore, Feinstein, and New York Senator Charles Schumer. It was also the number one target of the NRA. In fact, the NRA all but promised their supporters that a Bush presidency would help reverse this Draconian gun ban. Instead, Bush is pushing Congress to extend the ban.

A bill to reauthorize the gun ban will be introduced by Senator Feinstein in the coming weeks. It must pass both chambers of Congress to reach the President's desk. The best chance of stopping it will be in the House of Representatives. However, in order to defeat this bill, it must resist the power and influence of the White House. This will be no small task.

Not only is Bush betraying the pro-gun voters who helped elect him, he is breathing new life into a nearly dead anti-gun movement. Most political analysts credit Bush's pro-gun image as the chief reason he defeated Al Gore in the 2000 election. They also credit the pro-gun image of the Republican Party for helping them to achieve impressive wins in the 2002 congressional elections.

Now, Bush is giving new credibility to anti-gun zealots such as Schumer and Feinstein and is helping to reinvigorate the anti-gun momentum that had all but been put on ice.

However, the real question will be, "Will pro-gun conservatives continue to support Bush?" Bush is every bit the "Teflon President" that Clinton was. Conservatives seem willing to overlook anything he does, no matter how liberal or unconstitutional it may be. Will they overlook this, also?

If you truly believe in the Second Amendment and are willing to do something about it, I suggest you go to the Gun Owners of America website. They have a quick link set up which allows people an opportunity to conveniently send email to the White House about this issue. Go to the gun ban "alert" button. From there you can voice your disapproval with the President's decision to betray his constituents by supporting this new round of gun control.

Once again, the ball of freedom and constitutional government is in the court of the American people. Will they keep the ball and do something with it, or will they hand it off to the neo-conservatives at the White House? We'll see.


PLEASE Don't Sit out 2004, EVEN IF Bush signs the AW ban extention

Bush Supports New Extension Of Assault-Weapons Ban

Bush Backs Renewing Assault Weapons Ban



"That’s why I’m for instant background checks at gun shows. I’m for trigger locks."
George W. Bush - Source: St. Louis debate Oct 17,2000.

MORE INJUSTICE ON THE WAY - Bush GUN CONTROL
"Gene Healy, a Cato Institute scholar, recently provided a thorough exploration of the unintended consequences of one law, the new Bush-Ashcroft plan to federalize gun crimes, known as the Project Safe Neighborhoods program. The unintended consequences of this law are frightening."
NOTE: Same Article in Washington Times.

There Goes the Neighborhood: The Bush-Ashcroft Plan to "Help" Localities Fight Gun Crime, by Gene Healy

"W. Wimps Out on Guns"
The Bush package includes several pet causes of the gun-control lobby, including $75 million for gun locks; $15.3 million for 113 new federal attorneys to serve as full-time gun prosecutors; and $19.1 million to expand a program by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms aimed at preventing youths from obtaining guns. Although Bush stressed that he simply wants to "enforce existing laws," the fine print of Project Safe echoes the gun-grabbing Left's call to ban the importation of high-capacity ammunition clips."

Project Safe Neighborhoods, A Closer Look

LAURA BUSH:
"During her San Diego speech, for instance, she said nothing about the school shooting that occurred 20 miles away in El Cajon the day before, although in a television interview she condemned it, adding that she thinks more gun control laws are needed.

"I think that's very important," she said when asked by CNN whether stronger gun laws are needed."
Source.

EMERSON & THE SECOND AMENDMENT

A Gutless Supreme Court Decision - Gun Control

Republican Leadership Help Push Gun Control

Bush's Assault On Second Amendment

NEA Resource Text Guide In Regards To The Extreme Right - Where Do Your Kids Go To School?
"The radical right says it is pro-life but it bitterly opposes gun control legislation"

or

A Problem With Guns?


Thanks for that Patriot Act George


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; bang; banglist; bush; guns; secondamendment
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To: Mo1
Then I did my job and can live with myself.

What other people do that is wrong and out of my control does not deter me from doing what is right.

The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing.
1,441 posted on 04/19/2003 8:44:27 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: TLBSHOW
Bottom line is, President Bush is still Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban as the title of the thread said. Which mens he is advancing Bill Clinton policy..

That article was about an interview the Bill Frist gave where he states he doesn't agree with the Democrats in Congress about more gun law wouls stop the crime rate

Good try though .. but your grade just went down to a C

1,442 posted on 04/19/2003 8:46:14 AM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: Mo1
Question: Do you think that the second "A" protects your right to own, unlicensed and unregistered, let's say, a satchel nuke? What's the difference? Where do national security and personal rights reach the crossing? If you're honest with yourself, you see what I mean. I think that we have some very bad guys in this country. God knows, we the citizens who love this land are armed to the teeth as it is and given the need, would be on the streets to protect her.
1,443 posted on 04/19/2003 8:49:33 AM PDT by mict42
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To: ApesForEvolution
Then I did my job and can live with myself

OK .. now what about the rest of the 280 million people in this country. What are we now to do, since you will only think about what you want?

1,444 posted on 04/19/2003 8:55:47 AM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: mict42
I think that we have some very bad guys in this country. God knows, we the citizens who love this land are armed to the teeth as it is and given the need, would be on the streets to protect her

I realize there are bad guy out there .. but I also realize that if someone has a satchel nuke .. no gun in the world will protect me 100% from a nuke.

And the idiea of people strolling up and down the streets armed with AK47 while my children are playing ball on the front lawn really doesn't ease my mine. I don't have a problem if someone wants to own one .. but I also don't want our country turning into the backwards 3rd world country

1,445 posted on 04/19/2003 9:08:33 AM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: Mo1
If you or the entire population doesn't want the governmental affirmation of your rights via the Constitution, then elect representatives to subvert it and face whatever consequences exist...or, of course, move out of America. I guess you have outed yourself as a non-Constitutionist now. Good work.
1,446 posted on 04/19/2003 9:39:09 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Mo1
"I don't have a problem if someone wants to own one .. but I also don't want our country turning into the backwards 3rd world country"

Your tact of reasoning breaks down over and over again. The difference between America and a 3rd world nation is the Constitution and those willing to defend it. Are you afraid of people walking the streets with semi-auto short firearms near your children? You can't see those firearms...
1,447 posted on 04/19/2003 9:42:57 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: ApesForEvolution
If you or the entire population doesn't want the governmental affirmation of your rights via the Constitution, then elect representatives to subvert it and face whatever consequences exist...or, of course, move out of America. I guess you have outed yourself as a non-Constitutionist now. Good work.

No, I have not outted myself .. But hey, nice try

For the record as I have stated a number of times .. I fully support the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment .. but please tell me where in the 2nd amendment it says that you have the right own a AK47 ... it doesn't .. it states that you have the right to bear arms, there is no mention of what type of arms.

Which brings me back to my point, how do you explain this to the 280 million other people that live in this country.

Personally I don't give a damn if you own one or not .. but I am not the only person other then you living in this country.

1,448 posted on 04/19/2003 10:02:00 AM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Keep spinning my words .. you are doing a heck of a job.
1,449 posted on 04/19/2003 10:03:07 AM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: Mo1
Tell me where in the Constitution it says I can't!

You can't do it! The Constitution allowed and should still today all me to own the exact same firearms the government owns!! That's the whole damn point!!!

What part of 'SHALL NOT INFRINGE' do you find incomprehensible? Does it matter to you if a murderer murders with a long arm, short arm, crossbow or Bowie knife?
1,450 posted on 04/19/2003 10:06:35 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Mo1
"I fully support the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment"

The he** you do! You feel it incumbent upon yourself to define which firearms I can use! You ARE DANGEROUS to this Republic.
1,451 posted on 04/19/2003 10:08:32 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Mo1
Your words are very clear. They show you to be duplicitous.
1,452 posted on 04/19/2003 10:09:35 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: ApesForEvolution
What part of a " well-regulated militia" do you not understand?
1,453 posted on 04/19/2003 11:11:31 AM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Tell me where in the Constitution it says I can't!
You can't do it! The Constitution allowed and should still today all me to own the exact same firearms the government owns!! That's the whole damn point!!!

And you can't tell me were is says it does .. AND THAT is the argument that the left is trying to shove down all our throats

As I have stated I have no problem if you want to own an AK47 .. but it is not me you have to explain this to .. it is the OTHER 280 million people in this country.

And by stating it's my way or the high way, you are going to scare the heck out of people and they will continue to believe everything the Left Wing Wacko's have been yapping about all these years

Look at the whole picture, before we lose even more rights that we already have.

1,454 posted on 04/19/2003 11:13:44 AM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: ApesForEvolution
The he** you do! You feel it incumbent upon yourself to define which firearms I can use! You ARE DANGEROUS to this Republic.

I said no such thing .. again, nice trying spinning my words

1,455 posted on 04/19/2003 11:17:03 AM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: diamond6
You know she is not going to like that answer *L*
1,456 posted on 04/19/2003 11:18:36 AM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: Mo1; ApesForEvolution
Silence. 'Tis golden. Isn't it?
1,457 posted on 04/19/2003 12:13:30 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: ApesForEvolution
The answer is simple. Either a candidate is for the Constitution and will uphold it or not. Rewarding the ones that won't is not helping. Giving them a pass because they sometimes do is ludicrous. They take an oath to defend the Constitution from enemies, both foreign and domestic - if they betray it, then all bets should be off.

Agreed, that's why we will be voting for President Bush!!

1,458 posted on 04/19/2003 1:02:07 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife ("CNN - WE report WHEN WE decide.")
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To: Henchman
Keeping the Gov't in line is going to be difficult after seeing what they did in Iraq.

You got that right.. all terrorists should be afraid.. very very afraid. You guys no longer have any authority abroad or here.

1,459 posted on 04/19/2003 1:09:42 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife ("CNN - WE report WHEN WE decide.")
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Agreed, that's why we will be voting for President Bush!!

LOL! Exactly.

1,460 posted on 04/19/2003 1:13:46 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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