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To: konaice
"Don't for a minute suppose you can imagine a scenario that someone paid full time th dream these up hasn't already figured out and war-gamed."

I used to be paid full-time to design night vision, and fire control systems. Designing for counter-measures and counter-counter measures was part of the process.

I did not say the Iraqi's would win using my approach. They would buy themselves more time however.

If the US troops were forced to abandon their night vision then the Iraqi's would have just achieved a "levelling" of the battlefield capability. Note: US would not necessarily need to abandon their night vision, it mostly just needs a minute or two to adjust. But in that minute there is a time window to strike and then run.

There was no indication that any Iraqi forces had any kind of rigorous training. Training is of course one of the most important factors, but success comes also with knowing the enemy capabilities (and countering them) and pressing all advantages you may have in an overwhelming fashion.

The Iraqi's could have extended the campaign by a few weeks had they fought smarter, and used even the most rudimentary military planning.

Our military certainly planned for them to fight much tougher and smarter than they did. But thankfully they fought like idiots.

Note: One of the biggest problems they had is the same as they had in Gulf War 1. They relied on the Soviet model for command and control; highly centralized, with little initiative allowed at lower levels. A major flaw.

228 posted on 04/15/2003 5:51:57 AM PDT by Mark Felton ( Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. - Churchill)
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To: Mark Felton
"If the US troops were forced to abandon their night vision then the Iraqi's would have just achieved a "levelling" of the battlefield capability. "

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You mean US troops would revert to "only" their daytime advantage of fire-power, training, tactics, armor, air support, etc, etc. This is hardly a "levelling" in any real sense of the word.

There has never been a battle where foot soldiers, in small numbers, regardless of weaponry, have stopped an armored advance of any significant size.
230 posted on 04/15/2003 4:06:57 PM PDT by konaice
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To: Mark Felton
"If the US troops were forced to abandon their night vision then the Iraqi's would have just achieved a "levelling" of the battlefield capability. "

--
You mean US troops would revert to "only" their daytime advantage of fire-power, training, tactics, armor, air support, etc, etc. This is hardly a "levelling" in any real sense of the word.

There has never been a battle where foot soldiers, in small numbers, regardless of weaponry, have stopped an armored advance of any significant size.
231 posted on 04/15/2003 4:11:29 PM PDT by konaice
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